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the planets thought the Masters almost

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surely have a plan

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this clearly may be something there

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beyond the realm of man

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you think you know the less you barely

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do that's true dr. Zaius

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all right higher side chatters as we

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explore the world around us it's seeming

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more and more like the realms of science

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are not reflecting to us the culmination

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of human knowledge and unbiased progress

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but rather a carefully crafted paradigm

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in which the lab coat clad quarantine

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errs have roped off areas that interfere

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with the profits of their monopolistic

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pay masters and the capstone cabal has

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made sure to strategically structure

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their fancy educational institutions to

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leave any information that might lead to

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opening these doors scattered across the

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cutting room floor but there are plenty

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of rabbit holes full of erased history

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dismissed discoveries and destroyed

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scientists to look at for all those

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curious enough to take the journey and

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that's what we're doing here today

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specifically in the realm of that

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mysterious magical and essential element

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water as many of you know are

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methodically working through a series of

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chats that revolve around alchemy and

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the elements with Plus member and wise

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sage sha mangia near so far we've

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knocked out two previous shows first we

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started with the air episode where we

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talked about ether theory that wild

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little substance called Ormus and the

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mysterious airships of the Senhora arrow

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club and then we followed that up with

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the earth episode where we talked about

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the advanced permaculture practices of

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Native Americans engineered abundance

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enriching the soil through strange means

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and the power of the biochar process and

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today we're tackling the realm of water

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alchemy talking about some of its

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under-the-radar qualities and exploring

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the work of brilliant minds that they

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don't want you to know about back in the

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saddle for another wild ride my friend

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and yours the Shema engineer welcome

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back man as always an excellent

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introduction

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thanks man and I am really psyched for

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this one you sent me so many weird bits

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of information and research in it it's

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all pretty internally consistent it

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really does seem like a lot of Secrets

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are being kept about a substance that

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covers the majority the planet makes up

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the majority of our bodies and could be

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fine-tuned to produce effects that

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seemed damn near magical so this should

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be a lot of fun how would you like to

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set the stage where do you think we

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should start intro to water alchemy 101

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well let's just start with what people

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know about water since it's you know you

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get every day you bathe in it it falls

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from the sky

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so everybody's familiar with it you

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can't escape it if you want to it's

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essential to life so most people know

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that it has a chemical composition h2o

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ice floats basically what we've talked

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about up to this point that it's used

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for heating and cooling and that's about

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most people they're like okay well

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that's that's great that's water yeah

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well more do I need to know what more do

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this kind of it's in a beaker and it has

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a certain spectrum and that's about it

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you know just standard stuff right it's

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a liquid right but when you get into it

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even just the fact that ice floats is a

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special thing when you think about

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solids liquids gases there's a scale of

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density that is you know the same with

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most other materials but when it comes

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to water why it is a solid float on the

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liquid yeah that's not normal

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now is that because it has air bubbles

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in it perhaps it has to do with the way

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that the water gets structured as it

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approaches that four degrees C anomaly

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point was what they call it so at four

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degrees Celsius is the densest water

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becomes so basically either side of that

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getting colder getting hotter it becomes

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less dense gotcha now we're going to get

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into that a little later but from what

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Professor [\h__\h] is saying that's due

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to a different structure right you know

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and it being able to be in a more dense

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conglomeration of the atoms yeah

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the Gerald [\h__\h] stuff is probably my

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favorite of anything you said because

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it's just so interesting to think that

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there could be a fourth phase of water

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other than liquid solid gas other than

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the ones we think of yeah well I mean I

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can't remember exactly when that goes

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back to but I think maybe the 1800s or

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something like that like somebody

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postulated that there was a fourth phase

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of water and there was also the Pauline

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stuff that came up in the 1960s where

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they thought they found another kind of

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water but then it ended up being

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dismissed because they said oh well you

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know these huge changes in the

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properties of the water that we're

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seeing that's due to contamination and

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it's like wait if you're seeing huge

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changes in the properties of water due

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to a little contamination that you

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couldn't even detect initially this is

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that in and of itself interesting right

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right it just seems like that was

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another excuse that was the swamp gas of

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its time a reason to dismiss something

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that seemed really interesting that

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might have opened up other areas of

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science that they're like you don't need

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to look there there's nothing important

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here it was just some contamination yeah

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but if you think about just homeopathy

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on the face of it that speaks to

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homeopathy having the possibility for

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making changes in the way that water's

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properties are manifested by very small

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amounts of things even if it gets to the

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point where there shouldn't even be a

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molecule in there there's something

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going on there right and that was one of

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the big things that was an eye-opener

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with this stuff is because homeopathy is

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one of those areas that I have sort of

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come to dismiss as pseudoscience as some

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new-agey [\h__\h] because have just been

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convinced by the mainstream but now

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revisiting it it seems like maybe there

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is something to it because you shared a

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lot with me about DNA and water memory

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and how it can actually keep memory to a

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degree and so maybe it's something more

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than just dilution because I think a lot

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of people think of homeopathy and why

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they can dismiss it is because it's just

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dilution it's just mixing it with water

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and then selling more and you can see

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the capitalistic reasons why someone

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would do that so that's partly why I've

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dismissed it but I guess there's

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something to water that actually might

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enhance that or magnify it or in some

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way keep it working so if you look at

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the basic structure of water it's what

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they call polar molecule so that means

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that it has a side with a more positive

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charge and a more negative charge which

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means that you can get

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these things kind of linking up you know

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like those little monkeys in a barrel

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that you had as a kid you could have

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them kind of making different structures

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and hanging off of each other and kind

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of 3d conglomerations of water molecules

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in the bulk of the water and from some

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research that was done by Luke Montague

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near he found that just using

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electromagnetic signals they were able

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to cause water to reconstitute DNA when

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when given the correct enzyme to

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restructure the DNA so the information

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was actually in the water right so

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there's a structure that is able to be

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built up by and his hypothesis is that

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it's due to these structures in the

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water acting as resonant cavities and

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electromagnetic signals into the water

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structure itself right and just to give

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people a little bit of context you share

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with me a documentary that's about this

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research and in it I guess it's Luke's

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predecessor but he dilutes DNA to the

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point of saying that it would be one

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drop in the Atlantic Ocean and then they

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brought back the whole DNA strand all

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the information just from the little

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pieces that would be in that water at no

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no I'm not even not even that it's even

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more cool than that okay if they they

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have this sample of somebody with cancer

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I know wait no it's HIV it's somebody

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with HIV because that's what he got his

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Nobel Prize for this discovery of HIV

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and then basically what happens is they

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dilute that to a certain point and I

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think he he has the limit for what he

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found where they would still get a

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signal and it's less than less than a

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lot of the homeopaths are using so that

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might be part of the reason why some

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remedies don't work the way they're

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supposed to do or something like that

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because he basically found the limit

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where the information was still encoded

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but it was still that kind of dilution

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that you're talking about which is

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massive mm-hmm so basically what he did

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was he took that water where it

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shouldn't have a single molecule left he

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put that on essentially a microphone

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going to the computer the computer

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recorded a WAV file they were just using

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the pickup coil to pick up the

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electromagnetic signals that were coming

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out of the water but what I understand

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and then what they did was they sent

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that recording file like you've got

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right now recording my voice and they

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sent that across the world to Italy from

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France and then in Italy they put a

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sample of water just you know water that

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hadn't had any contact at all with the

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previous water that was in France and

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then they put that inside of a solenoid

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coil essentially just a coil wrapped

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around the water beaker and then they

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played back that file and then what they

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did was they took that water that had

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that information encoded in it and they

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put in the enzyme that would be able to

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reconstitute the DNA and then that is

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where the DNA came back and they were

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able to confirm that it was 98%

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identical to the sample that was from

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Paris dam so that's what they showed in

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that documentary that's a big deal being

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able to transmit information and

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reconstitute a DNA pattern on the

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opposite so that's a big deal through

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water and so what would like

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implications of that beer what would be

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practical applications for it well right

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now I'm not exactly sure what the

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practical implications would be but in

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theory it's kind of like an aqueous

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transporter from starch cycle it shows

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that information can reconstitute life

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in a separate area so in theory it's

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kind of like the first steps towards

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something like that potentially huh so

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how it I mean you know just wild

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speculation would that be helpful for

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someone who wanted to make a directed

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panspermia argument that something

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landed here and unpacked itself on a

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planet that's largely made of water well

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as we start to get into some of the

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other research I would say that it tends

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to lend to the fact that there isn't

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anything that's really that magical

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about water or creating life right so

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you kind of need you need the amino

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acids which you know they've shown that

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in those conditions of primordial earth

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that those building blocks of life were

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there and then you need some sort of

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energy to get it to self-organize

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and that's what we're talking about is a

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self organizational property of this

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we're just talking about a coil around a

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beaker of water a to reconstitute that's

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a big deal and there's a lot of

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obviously that you know the

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establishment it's a tall this can't be

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true blah blah blah so he's basically

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out of Paris now he's in China so he's

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doing his stuff in China but they're

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doing a lot of this Chi energy kind of

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stuff so it's a part of their culture to

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them it's like yeah whatever it's not as

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big of a deal as this first Westerners

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right and you mentioned James Randi

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someone that a lot of people would know

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as a famous skeptic it was a different

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scientist a guy named Jacques Ben Venise

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Ben nice and you know Randy helped

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destroy that guy's career in the realm

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of water memory by moving the goalposts

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repeatedly they'd have at work and then

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he'd be like oh I don't like this I

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don't like this part of the experiment

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you should tweak that and they just

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tweaked it and move the goalposts

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until it didn't work and they said ah

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see it's just some [\h__\h] this guy's

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working on yeah and because people

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respect Randy for some reason I mean you

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can dismiss all these realms yeah so I

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mean that's the sort of stuff that

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happens where with another form of

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research that would be more

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conventionally recognized they would

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just confirm it but with this what they

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love to say is extraordinary claims

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require extraordinary evidence but no I

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say extraordinary claims require the

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same data but it's the marker is you go

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all right

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that's why this stuff a lot of times

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gets dismissed

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right is the stuff yeah man and maybe we

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should go into the Gerald [\h__\h] stuff

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a little more yeah uh people probably

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aren't that familiar at all but he talks

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about easy water the exclusion zone what

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about his work is so fascinating so his

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work is so fascinating because it's

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something where you can see it at a

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macro scale like you can see the

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exclusion zone

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very low powered microscope something

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that you could find in pretty much any

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lab and you can see this zone build up

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and so he's been kind of interrogating

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this effect and basically what it is is

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if you put a barrier or a boundary in

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water and it tends to repel water it's

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hydrophobic like Teflon or something

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like that

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and a lot of proteins or hydrophobic

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then what you'll see is this easy zone

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build up what he calls easy zone

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basically when it is these sheets of

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water that are in a different molecular

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configuration and

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basically it is hexagonal sheets of

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water that are in a different molecular

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structure and they're able to stack much

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more closely than the ice and so when

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you're at this four degrees C anomaly

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point you get the densest stacking on

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these sheets and then as they start to

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organize into ice then they start to

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build up more volume and start to

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actually create the ice crystal mm-hmm

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yeah and he talks about this fourth

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phase of water being a gel-like phase

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that I guess is just barely noticeable

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or it's just on the surface of the water

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I guess he explains that the jesus

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lizard that everybody has seen running

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across water the common explanation is

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oh well that's just surface tension but

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he says the math does not work for it to

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be surface tension there has to be

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something else going on and that's his

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hypothesis is that it's this fourth

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phase of water this gel-like phase that

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would be I guess very thinly laid out

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across the surface of the water yeah

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he's found that it's affected by light

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it'll build up more layers in light and

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actually infrared light is the one that

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affects the most but you know so I mean

387
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what do they call that lizard right yeah

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the jesus lizard the jesus lizard so you

389
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know it also has ramifications with

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respect to someone like Jesus who is

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supposed to be able to walk on water and

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there's other accounts of similar things

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happening but what if it's due to a

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field effect creating a much larger easy

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water sheet with a much higher strength

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and somebody could actually walk on

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water

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so it's just a magician well I mean

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you're talking about getting into the

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fields that create quantum effects and

401
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things like that when you're talking

402
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about this stuff you're talking about

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what goes on behind the scenes of

404
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quantum physics you know into the ether

405
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yeah I did think that was so fascinating

406
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too that he talks about the relationship

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between water and sunlight and that

408
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those two elements they play off each

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other in a lot of interesting ways that

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we just don't consider and that you

411
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could basically make a really good

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battery using just water and sunlight in

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the right configurations he talks about

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basically a form of what I guess would

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be described as water photosynthesis

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that maybe that even plays on our bodies

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because what is in our environment more

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than sunlight and water and for these

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things to have interactions that we

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don't really get that deep into I mean

421
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that's a fascinating and provocative

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area yeah definitely definitely

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and you know you can get into like

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sungazing and things like that

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potentially I mean that's kind of its

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own whole thing right but maybe there is

427
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a mechanism there I laughs I think that

428
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is the goofiest thing the sungazing

429
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thing and the breatharians and people

430
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who just think I don't need to eat I'm

431
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just gonna stand in the Sun or look at

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the Sun there's that documentary eat the

433
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Sun that's about that but I mean [\h__\h]

434
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maybe there is some kind of mechanism

435
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there some type of water based

436
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photosynthesis your body is mainly water

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so why not he mentions that saunas are

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so great for people and we don't really

439
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know exactly why and that this might be

440
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the mechanism it's not light but it's

441
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heat heat and it makes you sweat and

442
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there's just apparently something in

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there well this light it's it's just in

444
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a non visible spectrum fair enough

445
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ladies you know

446
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x-rays are light radiation is light you

447
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know yeah it's pretty compelling and

448
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then kind of in line with that Jesus

449
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lizard thing or someone walking on water

450
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or there being a gel-like structure he

451
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shows he puts two beakers of water next

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to each other with water right up to the

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brim and I guess he charges that he

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charges it with electrons and then he

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pulls the beakers apart and the water

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makes a bridge you know and that's so

457
00:20:03,020 --> 00:20:00,780
nuts because you would think that water

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as a liquid just would fill its

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container or as flat-earthers say it

460
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works to level itself out but yet here

461
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we have a bridge made only of water it's

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not supported by anything it's just

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charged water and he pulls it apart as

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far as four centimeters and think about

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a four centimeter line that is just a

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water bridge that's impressive you got

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to think you know some kind of

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implications for that somewhere further

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to take that well I mean he's basically

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building up these layers in a tube and

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it's kind of like forming a pipe of

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water made up of these sheets so it

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would actually be a very similar

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configuration to something like a carbon

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nanotube when you think about it you

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know there's strength there there's

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strengthen that in that configuration

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and you know these hexagonal sheets six

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hexagons are used in the colonies and

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stuff like that so it's it's a very

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strong structure it's just like man

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considering the fact that so many people

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think that Big Pharma and the medical

484
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community has pretty much got it all on

485
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lock and got everything figured out

486
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here's this fundamental process or

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relationship between two things that are

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very huge in our lives and it's just not

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talked about I guess people wouldn't

490
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think that it would even be that

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important or whatever but it clearly

492
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seems to be yeah well I mean the thing

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is that when you're talking about water

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structure that this is just one of the

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water structures but I think it's the

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most important because of what further

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researchers have said in the form of

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viktor schauberger because he had a big

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focus on the anomaly

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and if this is the structure that it

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goes into at that point and that's you

502
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know that's what he was talking about

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there but if there's other structures

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that are able to be formed you know it's

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kind of like when we thought the atom

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was just an atom and then we start to

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get into smashing them together and then

508
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you see all these other things to start

509
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to pop out it's kind of like that right

510
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where it just opens up like this whole

511
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different realm of what water can be at

512
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its fundamental properties I mean

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there's steam tables out there that

514
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they've known about since the 1800s at

515
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gipyo the use of phase change of water

516
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under these conditions in global but

517
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there's stuff like that it just goes out

518
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so many different dimensions at that

519
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point when you start to talk about the

520
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different ways that water can structure

521
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during these phase changes and stuff its

522
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boggling that's probably really I mean

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you saw the website I sent you where

524
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this is European I mean this English

525
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researcher and he's listing all of these

526
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different structures of water that have

527
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been found in microbiology and things

528
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like that and it's it's just page after

529
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page after page of different structures

530
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that water can form in you know so it's

531
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really remarkable and I think is

532
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especially once we get into the

533
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cavitation stuff and how that works I

534
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:13,580
mean that that's just huge huge for

535
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being able to transform world right yeah

536
00:23:19,389 --> 00:23:17,929
the cavitation stuff I mean let's

537
00:23:23,589 --> 00:23:19,399
explain that to people because basically

538
00:23:25,539 --> 00:23:23,599
it culminates in the idea of a universal

539
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:25,549
3d printer right I mean the idea to

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manipulate all the elements and if you

541
00:23:33,549 --> 00:23:31,909
can do that in a machine you can 3d

542
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print anything you don't have to just

543
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use that resin material that the

544
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:39,859
machines today use well yeah potentially

545
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I mean I obviously this is just a

546
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concept but there's a guy mark LeClair

547
00:23:50,619 --> 00:23:47,929
at nano spire incorporated he's been

548
00:23:55,670 --> 00:23:50,629
working on cavitation for years at this

549
00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:55,680
point and what he's found is that

550
00:24:03,830 --> 00:23:59,250
during normal boiling you get a bubble

551
00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:03,840
right and that's full of steam and it

552
00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:06,030
just you know expands and contracts and

553
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:08,430
once it releases the the steam to the

554
00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:10,770
air or it collapses as it gives us heat

555
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:14,790
to the water but what he started to get

556
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:19,020
into was looking at a pump where you get

557
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:20,850
cavitation bubbles in there and it's not

558
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:23,100
really steam at that point it's a more

559
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:26,130
rarefied vapor than you find an esteem

560
00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:29,730
bubble from boiling and what happens is

561
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:32,390
as this bubble collapses in on itself

562
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:36,630
there's this spike of the water that

563
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:39,480
starts to form as it goes in and it

564
00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:41,880
basically it's like a doughnut where the

565
00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:43,620
spike is going through the hole in the

566
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,550
doughnut and it turns into this twisting

567
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:49,200
spire that's what he calls the nano

568
00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:53,250
spire and it has the shape of a double

569
00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:58,620
helix like DNA and as the spire is

570
00:25:04,820 --> 00:25:01,620
coming down I mean it is extremely

571
00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:04,830
extremely rigid it's I think he said it

572
00:25:09,170 --> 00:25:07,320
was like 12 times more rigid than

573
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:09,180
tungsten or something along those lines

574
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:13,200
and then it has its charge to it where

575
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:15,570
the crystal as its forming it's

576
00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:20,190
developing these charges and if you have

577
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:22,820
something that basically attracts this

578
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:27,000
positive head of the collapsing bubble

579
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:30,360
then it'll shoot up and he was able to

580
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:32,550
get it up to about half the speed of

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00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:40,190
mini UFO and we can get more into that

582
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:41,670
but basically what he was going with

583
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:44,100
some mini supernova explosions as the

584
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:47,010
spire of crystalline water that's harder

585
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:49,830
than diamond you know is just drilling

586
00:25:54,890 --> 00:25:53,130
into whatever this bubble is collapsing

587
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:54,900
into what he calls the substrate you

588
00:25:59,150 --> 00:25:57,210
know you have to have this bubble within

589
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:59,160
three bubble diameters of the wall and

590
00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:01,260
then at that point it'll just as its

591
00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:03,150
collapsing it'll get attracted to it and

592
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,390
it'll just start to drill into it but if

593
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:08,400
you have something where there's a

594
00:26:11,899 --> 00:26:09,210
charge that

595
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:11,909
Lautrec that positive Edvin it'll start

596
00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:14,250
to shoot off and that's where he gets

597
00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:15,929
these effects and so that's what he does

598
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:20,039
his reaction chambers yeah yes a charged

599
00:26:24,529 --> 00:26:22,950
plate where all these little spires are

600
00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:24,539
shooting off towards it and digging

601
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:26,580
trenches into it and the trenches you

602
00:26:32,299 --> 00:26:29,630
find all these transmuted elements and

603
00:26:35,299 --> 00:26:32,309
there's other researchers who have done

604
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:35,309
similar things with just a plate and

605
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:38,880
then they have a and this is outside of

606
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:41,610
water but it's a similar effect what

607
00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:44,640
he's doing is there's a plate of ceramic

608
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:46,980
or glass or some sort of dielectric and

609
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:49,470
he's got a little finger and he's

610
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:53,370
shooting off what he calls I think it's

611
00:27:00,889 --> 00:26:56,370
a electric valium clusters or something

612
00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:00,899
like that and he calls them he bees but

613
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:03,480
but they are their charges now this

614
00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:05,370
isn't in water this is just a charge of

615
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:07,020
electrons but they're all clustered

616
00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:09,179
together and they will do a similar

617
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:10,649
tunneling and they'll give similar

618
00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:12,779
effects where you see all of these

619
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:14,520
elements strung out across the entire

620
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,850
periodic table in these impacts and so

621
00:27:23,659 --> 00:27:20,399
it's not just a property of water it's a

622
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:23,669
property of space and matter and being

623
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:27,090
able to get these high-energy impulses

624
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:28,860
that go down into it you're able to

625
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:31,260
start to transmit the elements at a

626
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:34,620
point so whether it's these little

627
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:37,110
charge clusters of electrons that are

628
00:27:42,740 --> 00:27:40,200
shot out of a metal tip or if they're

629
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:42,750
just due to cavitation there's two

630
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:44,130
mechanisms right there you could

631
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:46,529
potentially build some sort of 3d

632
00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:49,289
printer that you know the substrate is

633
00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:51,750
just build up into the material you want

634
00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:54,659
as you go along yeah and you can control

635
00:28:00,019 --> 00:27:56,820
it by controlling the velocity of the

636
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:00,029
impact of this spire or in the case of

637
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:01,529
the electrons would be the energy

638
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:03,929
potential of that as it strikes in

639
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,370
either case and then you're just

640
00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:08,399
programming what kind of material you

641
00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:09,870
want to build up there so you can build

642
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:12,750
up you know mixtures of metals that are

643
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:14,940
all kind of inter woven together and you

644
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:16,950
can have 3d channels that never have to

645
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:19,500
be cut out there all just embedded in it

646
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:22,590
or porosity you could make you know just

647
00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:22,830
like

648
00:28:27,259 --> 00:28:24,360
anything you can do with a 3d printer be

649
00:28:30,889 --> 00:28:27,269
out of different materials right and on

650
00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:30,899
a nano scale man like obviously the

651
00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:32,820
metals have have that has huge

652
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,830
implications I mean you could get into

653
00:28:39,289 --> 00:28:37,679
orgonite and perfecting that and all

654
00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:39,299
kinds of weird stuff there but you could

655
00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,539
basically ultimately 3d print a full

656
00:28:46,669 --> 00:28:44,700
aquarium filled with water right I mean

657
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:46,679
you can make the outside structure you

658
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:48,450
can make the gravel at the bottom and

659
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:50,100
then you could have it fill with water

660
00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:53,010
as it goes potentially I mean but I

661
00:28:59,149 --> 00:28:55,590
obviously this is just a concept but

662
00:29:01,220 --> 00:28:59,159
yeah you could do stuff like that I love

663
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:01,230
it man and in terms of the potential for

664
00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:05,250
an engine from LeClair's work I mean is

665
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:07,340
is there a way to harness that energy

666
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,409
into a pilot able engine as far as you

667
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:13,919
can tell a pilot able craft well so

668
00:29:21,549 --> 00:29:16,710
that's where we get into more I be king

669
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:21,559
and his talk about hydrogen plasmas and

670
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:24,779
using brown gas generators in the

671
00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:27,510
internal combustion engines as a bridge

672
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:34,460
technology into a free energy economy so

673
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:37,110
what he proposes is you know being able

674
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:40,919
to use these Brown gas generators to

675
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:44,460
create a hydrogen that once it gets

676
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:45,990
introduced to the engine you're able to

677
00:29:51,769 --> 00:29:48,809
turn into a plasma and then that is

678
00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:51,779
actually what is driving the engine and

679
00:29:57,169 --> 00:29:53,580
you know this has been out for years but

680
00:29:58,820 --> 00:29:57,179
he talks about how all of this happens

681
00:30:01,310 --> 00:29:58,830
there's a self-organization of the

682
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:01,320
plasma due to these effects where

683
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:04,350
plasmas are able to self-organizing it

684
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:07,039
goes back to a Nobel Prize from the 70s

685
00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:10,230
Peron go and I think was the one who

686
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:12,899
discovered that and it it makes it so

687
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:14,820
that you know it's something where it's

688
00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:17,700
modifiable onto what we already have so

689
00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:20,990
you don't have to go out and buy a

690
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:24,120
$200,000 new machine you can modify what

691
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:27,090
you have but the big barrier to this is

692
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:29,460
just getting people to realize that it's

693
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:33,270
possible and getting it so that it can't

694
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:36,720
be shut down by these people who want to

695
00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:38,580
keep these things out of the public eye

696
00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:41,070
right there needs to be some threshold

697
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,500
where the knowledge that this is

698
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:46,080
possible reaches out to enough people

699
00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:48,360
and it becomes something we're like we

700
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:49,230
know it's there

701
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:52,200
we know it's available let us have it

702
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:53,610
stop blocking it

703
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:56,580
you know because they've had this stuff

704
00:31:01,220 --> 00:30:59,159
for years I mean all viktor schauberger

705
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:01,230
x' were kind of like tesla it all just

706
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:05,330
got gobbled up and it's somewhere and

707
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:07,530
somebody's probably doing something with

708
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,530
it but we don't have access to it it all

709
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:12,720
gets gobbled up and we need to demand

710
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:15,240
access to this information again and

711
00:31:20,539 --> 00:31:17,250
keep building it up on our own as well

712
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:20,549
as long as we can right and we need to

713
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:23,070
get more into Victor Schwab burgers work

714
00:31:27,409 --> 00:31:24,720
he seems kind of like the Wilhelm Reich

715
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,419
of water yeah probably the most

716
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:29,760
fascinating scientists in this water

717
00:31:34,669 --> 00:31:32,640
realm walk us through a little bit about

718
00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:34,679
his background and kind of the

719
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,059
progression of his discoveries so viktor

720
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:41,760
schauberger was born in 1885 in austria

721
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:44,370
and he did not want to go to university

722
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:46,710
because his brothers went to university

723
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:48,450
and he saw the effect that have had on

724
00:31:53,659 --> 00:31:51,840
their thinking and so he decided that he

725
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:53,669
wanted to go into a career in forestry

726
00:32:00,260 --> 00:31:56,970
and by doing that he became caretaker

727
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:00,270
for a lot of unspoiled Alpine forests

728
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:05,010
and while he was doing that he observed

729
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,520
quite a few interesting things in these

730
00:32:14,029 --> 00:32:11,039
forests that you know we're kind of a

731
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:14,039
holdover of a medieval forest that was

732
00:32:18,529 --> 00:32:16,020
still around at the end of the 19th

733
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:18,539
century whereas a lot of European

734
00:32:25,159 --> 00:32:22,320
forests had been for generations been

735
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:25,169
overworked by the Europeans but these

736
00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:27,090
were basically royal lands that had been

737
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:31,950
set aside not used so I'd like to read a

738
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:35,520
little section of Alec Bartholomew's in

739
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:38,070
Nature perfect startling insights of

740
00:32:41,899 --> 00:32:39,510
viktor schauberger where he talks about

741
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:41,909
some of the things that he observed when

742
00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:46,140
he was in the forests so this section is

743
00:32:50,419 --> 00:32:48,299
called the water wizard water was always

744
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:50,429
Victor's fascination one day come

745
00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:52,440
by his foresters he came to remote

746
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,149
upland plateau where there was a

747
00:32:57,789 --> 00:32:55,919
legendary spring that emerged from a

748
00:33:00,080 --> 00:32:57,799
dilapidated don't like structure

749
00:33:02,239 --> 00:33:00,090
schauberger ordered it to be pulled down

750
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:02,249
for safety reasons one of the older

751
00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:03,720
foresters warned him that if the

752
00:33:07,879 --> 00:33:05,159
structure were removed the spring would

753
00:33:10,009 --> 00:33:07,889
dry up taking know the old foresters

754
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:10,019
advice and as a verifying experiment

755
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:11,700
Shelburne requested the structure be

756
00:33:17,659 --> 00:33:14,490
carefully dismantled each stone and its

757
00:33:19,159 --> 00:33:17,669
place marked when Victor passed again in

758
00:33:21,230 --> 00:33:19,169
two weeks later he noticed the spring

759
00:33:23,869 --> 00:33:21,240
had indeed dried up due to exposure the

760
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:23,879
sun's rays immediately he ordered the

761
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:26,100
structure to be carefully rebuilt in a

762
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:27,809
few days later the Spring began flow

763
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:30,090
again this taught him that water liked

764
00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:32,490
to flow in cool darkness Victor's

765
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:34,200
abiding interest was discovered how to

766
00:33:37,879 --> 00:33:35,970
generate energy using nature's own

767
00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:37,889
methods he worked out how a trout is

768
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:40,590
able to screw its way up a waterfall by

769
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:42,809
hitching a ride on strong levitated

770
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:45,480
currents using this principle the first

771
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:47,669
generator he developed was called the

772
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:50,580
trout turbine to perfect this he needed

773
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:52,350
a more precise information on how a

774
00:33:56,779 --> 00:33:54,419
child is able to stand motionless in a

775
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:56,789
fast moving current indeed how it

776
00:34:02,299 --> 00:34:00,659
suddenly accelerate upstream the trout

777
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:02,309
is holding its station in midstream

778
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:04,169
where the water is coldest densest and

779
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,570
has the most potential energy victor

780
00:34:10,730 --> 00:34:08,159
studied the gills of the fish and found

781
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:10,740
what he thought were wave guides which

782
00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:12,450
would direct the water into a powerful

783
00:34:17,419 --> 00:34:15,750
backwards vortex current as shiny scales

784
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,429
minimize friction in the water they also

785
00:34:22,329 --> 00:34:19,740
create scores more little mortises that

786
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:22,339
amplify the upstream counter current

787
00:34:26,059 --> 00:34:24,359
particularly towards the tail which

788
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:26,069
cancel out the pressure on the fish's

789
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:28,500
snout the zone of negative thrust is

790
00:34:33,169 --> 00:34:30,659
created along the whole trout's body so

791
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:33,179
it stays in the same place these counter

792
00:34:37,099 --> 00:34:34,950
currents can be increased by flakes of

793
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:37,109
oxygen deficient water expelled from the

794
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:39,990
body this combining with free oxygen in

795
00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:41,460
the water causes the water body to

796
00:34:46,099 --> 00:34:43,470
expand with the effect the fish is

797
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:46,109
similar to squeezing a bar of wet soap

798
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:48,510
in your hands another experience that

799
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:50,760
Victor often quoted as significant for

800
00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:52,230
his growth and understanding occurred

801
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,740
when he had his shot a chinois buck on a

802
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,040
frosty night under a stream where he

803
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:01,440
stood some green logs were bobbing up on

804
00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:03,540
the surface and sinking to the bottom as

805
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:04,700
though they were dance

806
00:35:09,010 --> 00:35:06,410
and not only that there was a large

807
00:35:13,150 --> 00:35:09,020
stone that that seemed to have no uneven

808
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:13,160
or ragged edges on it and it began to

809
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:14,839
float in this way schauberger developed

810
00:35:19,329 --> 00:35:17,480
his ideas different forms of motion and

811
00:35:21,069 --> 00:35:19,339
shapes from these observations having

812
00:35:23,799 --> 00:35:21,079
seen how water could carry its greatest

813
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:23,809
load on a cold clear night he made

814
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,730
practical use of this observation during

815
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:28,160
the winter of 1918 the town of Linz was

816
00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:30,140
suffering a severe shortage of fuel as a

817
00:35:34,450 --> 00:35:32,630
result in the war when draught animals

818
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:34,460
had been commandeered there was a small

819
00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:35,990
stream that ran through narrow gorges

820
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:37,400
which was considered unsuitable for

821
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:39,890
transporting logs but he wanted to try

822
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:42,530
out his ideas using the stream his offer

823
00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:45,380
to help being accepted by the

824
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:47,000
authorities he described how he

825
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,670
proceeded I observed that the increased

826
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:51,200
water level after the thought takes

827
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:52,490
place in the early hours of the morning

828
00:35:57,069 --> 00:35:54,890
when it is coldest particularly at the

829
00:35:58,780 --> 00:35:57,079
full moon although the volume of the

830
00:36:01,299 --> 00:35:58,790
water is apparently less due to its

831
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:01,309
compression on cooling it had more

832
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:03,530
energy that enabled it to carry more

833
00:36:07,329 --> 00:36:05,569
sediment gouging out deposits of sand

834
00:36:08,829 --> 00:36:07,339
and concluded that in these conditions

835
00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:08,839
would be able to carry a greater weight

836
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:11,000
of logs this was a principle that

837
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:12,710
enabled him to turn upside down the

838
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:14,569
current theories of hydraulics and

839
00:36:20,799 --> 00:36:16,160
particularly the methods of river and

840
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:20,809
flood management so basically during

841
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:24,559
this period schauberger was building up

842
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,670
his observations in an unspoiled

843
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:30,079
wilderness where there were a lot of

844
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:32,690
these fifth Erich and energetic effects

845
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:34,609
that you don't see in more dilapidated

846
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,760
wildernesses right so like one of the

847
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:39,440
things he saw is this trout and it was

848
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:42,890
kind of like cartwheeling in the air as

849
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:46,970
it went up a waterfall but it wasn't it

850
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:49,190
wasn't like it jumped it was just

851
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:51,710
dancing in the air and it's going up

852
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:53,390
over a waterfall it's writing these

853
00:36:59,460 --> 00:36:56,390
levitational currents I mean this is

854
00:37:01,539 --> 00:36:59,470
stuff that you just don't see today

855
00:37:04,359 --> 00:37:01,549
right but it's right there in nature

856
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:04,369
apparently evidently it was at some

857
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:06,290
point but you know I think a lot of our

858
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:08,270
waterways are so damaged at this point

859
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:10,609
that you don't see these effects nearly

860
00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:15,369
as much right and you mentioned in that

861
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:17,660
paragraph that you read water

862
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:19,700
would be able to carry more on a cold

863
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:21,890
dark night was one of his observations

864
00:37:26,049 --> 00:37:24,170
and doesn't that counteract what we were

865
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:26,059
saying about the Jesus Lizard I mean

866
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:28,490
doesn't that fourth phase or the gel

867
00:37:35,769 --> 00:37:31,000
phase isn't it light would help that

868
00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:35,779
well so the thing is that yeah the light

869
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:40,460
helps it that's the moon oh and when its

870
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:43,730
coldest so that's basically trying to

871
00:37:50,979 --> 00:37:48,049
get it to that anomaly point

872
00:37:52,809 --> 00:37:50,989
where the waters focused hmm I mean it's

873
00:37:54,759 --> 00:37:52,819
not where it's water's coldest but it's

874
00:37:58,599 --> 00:37:54,769
that density point so you're getting all

875
00:38:01,089 --> 00:37:58,609
these sheets built up and if you think

876
00:38:05,229 --> 00:38:01,099
about like writing around on ice skates

877
00:38:07,929 --> 00:38:05,239
those sheets are very slippery so you'd

878
00:38:11,859 --> 00:38:07,939
have this slippery gel that all these

879
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:11,869
logs are bobbing around on it is crazy

880
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:14,630
in the documentary you sent me you can

881
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:17,569
see video like all black and white video

882
00:38:21,759 --> 00:38:19,729
of the logs going down these chutes that

883
00:38:23,739 --> 00:38:21,769
he made and it it does seem quite

884
00:38:26,169 --> 00:38:23,749
fascinating that we'd have footage of

885
00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:26,179
that and then still not use it in

886
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:29,660
practice well so I mean the way that he

887
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:32,089
used these chutes it was used for many

888
00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:35,569
years in Europe and the way he kept the

889
00:38:39,579 --> 00:38:37,400
water at that temperature was but he

890
00:38:41,049 --> 00:38:39,589
kept pulling off of the stream at

891
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:41,059
certain points when the water started to

892
00:38:46,469 --> 00:38:44,209
heat up and kept it covered during

893
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:46,479
transport and stuff like that I believe

894
00:38:50,349 --> 00:38:48,380
I'm not mistaken

895
00:38:53,469 --> 00:38:50,359
well it was that documentary where he

896
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:53,479
talks about saying that we only have

897
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:55,910
half a water cycle in school you're

898
00:39:00,249 --> 00:38:58,130
taught oh you know the Sun hits the

899
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:00,259
water the water evaporates goes into the

900
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:02,390
clouds and rains down and that's the

901
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:05,089
water cycle but actually that's only one

902
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:06,650
side of the coin that there's actually a

903
00:39:10,029 --> 00:39:08,089
whole nother component that light

904
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:10,039
component we were talking about and it's

905
00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:13,099
actually necessary for the water to be

906
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:15,229
basically in good health quote unquote

907
00:39:21,009 --> 00:39:19,369
and when you DeForest an area the forest

908
00:39:22,779 --> 00:39:21,019
actually helps regulate the light I

909
00:39:25,299 --> 00:39:22,789
guess to a degree and when it doesn't

910
00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:25,309
have that forest the river isn't as

911
00:39:30,969 --> 00:39:26,839
healthy as it could be otherwise is that

912
00:39:33,609 --> 00:39:30,979
right basically so it has to do with for

913
00:39:37,329 --> 00:39:33,619
one the shade helps to keep the water

914
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:37,339
from evaporating it also helps to keep

915
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:39,170
it from being exposed to the Sun too

916
00:39:44,229 --> 00:39:42,170
much which deals with so there's you

917
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:44,239
know light can help it but if you get

918
00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:45,920
too much light and start to heat it up

919
00:39:51,759 --> 00:39:47,929
too much then you're you're breaking

920
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,769
down the structure izing effect so you

921
00:39:55,959 --> 00:39:53,119
have to keep it at a cool temperature

922
00:39:59,819 --> 00:39:55,969
close to that 4 degrees C as possible

923
00:40:02,019 --> 00:39:59,829
from what viktor schauberger says and

924
00:40:03,789 --> 00:40:02,029
what was the other point you were asked

925
00:40:05,379 --> 00:40:03,799
about oh just the other half of that

926
00:40:07,779 --> 00:40:05,389
water cycle oh yeah yeah

927
00:40:10,299 --> 00:40:07,789
so the other thing is that's talking

928
00:40:12,549 --> 00:40:10,309
about surface water and air water but

929
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:12,559
then there's earth water there's a water

930
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:14,089
that soaks into the earth from the

931
00:40:17,859 --> 00:40:16,609
streams there's water that soaks into

932
00:40:19,899 --> 00:40:17,869
the earth thing and that gets pulled up

933
00:40:21,939 --> 00:40:19,909
by the trees and so when you remove

934
00:40:24,939 --> 00:40:21,949
those trees you actually lower the water

935
00:40:26,789 --> 00:40:24,949
table and you reduce the amount of water

936
00:40:30,009 --> 00:40:26,799
that's available to the roots of plants

937
00:40:32,049 --> 00:40:30,019
because those trees help to basically

938
00:40:35,919 --> 00:40:32,059
raise the water table as their roots

939
00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:35,929
draw on the water so there's that effect

940
00:40:39,759 --> 00:40:37,849
as well and also the ground temperature

941
00:40:41,019 --> 00:40:39,769
the higher the ground temperature the

942
00:40:43,449 --> 00:40:41,029
lower the water table is going to be

943
00:40:45,879 --> 00:40:43,459
less vegetation means higher ground

944
00:40:47,949 --> 00:40:45,889
temperature things like that so right

945
00:40:49,899 --> 00:40:47,959
and and that's so interesting so I guess

946
00:40:52,149 --> 00:40:49,909
to give people a little bit of a

947
00:40:55,959 --> 00:40:52,159
visualization or to make this easier we

948
00:40:57,909 --> 00:40:55,969
think of the water cycle as you know

949
00:41:01,269 --> 00:40:57,919
this loop where the water goes from its

950
00:41:02,649 --> 00:41:01,279
puddle up into the sky and maybe we

951
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,659
should think of it more as a figure

952
00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:05,119
eight where it goes up into the sky but

953
00:41:09,549 --> 00:41:07,309
then it comes down to its puddle and

954
00:41:11,229 --> 00:41:09,559
then goes down into the earth and has a

955
00:41:13,029 --> 00:41:11,239
filtration process or some type of

956
00:41:14,589 --> 00:41:13,039
process and then would come back up to

957
00:41:16,089 --> 00:41:14,599
the surface and go back maybe we should

958
00:41:18,939 --> 00:41:16,099
think of it more as a figure eight yeah

959
00:41:20,889 --> 00:41:18,949
rather than one cycle that ends at the

960
00:41:22,449 --> 00:41:20,899
the water puddle if you're going to talk

961
00:41:25,899 --> 00:41:22,459
about a lake or a stream or a river or

962
00:41:28,389 --> 00:41:25,909
whatever well trees are critical like

963
00:41:31,299 --> 00:41:28,399
that spring that was covered by that old

964
00:41:34,209 --> 00:41:31,309
shack you know once that Shack was gone

965
00:41:37,509 --> 00:41:34,219
that spring dried up mm-hmm and you see

966
00:41:39,869 --> 00:41:37,519
the same thing with trees and Springs on

967
00:41:42,010 --> 00:41:39,879
mountains if you get rid of the trees I

968
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,020
mean

969
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:44,000
that structure had nothing to do with

970
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:45,440
roots or anything like that that

971
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:47,450
structure was just keeping the Sun off

972
00:41:52,540 --> 00:41:50,510
but right that was enough it really

973
00:41:54,670 --> 00:41:52,550
speaks to the interconnectedness of

974
00:41:56,140 --> 00:41:54,680
everything not only nature but of course

975
00:41:59,950 --> 00:41:56,150
structures that we build it's just

976
00:42:01,960 --> 00:41:59,960
everything is so integrated that one

977
00:42:03,790 --> 00:42:01,970
change you don't even think about the

978
00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:03,800
implications of that and especially when

979
00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:05,480
you look at the deforestation we've done

980
00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:07,070
the changes we've made to the

981
00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:07,880
environment

982
00:42:11,170 --> 00:42:09,830
I mean we've trashed it and it's more

983
00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:11,180
than just what you can see because we

984
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:12,590
don't even understand these mechanisms

985
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:16,240
that are basically in ruin at this point

986
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,070
yeah and I think you know if we're going

987
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:22,400
to have any chance of being able to to

988
00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:25,010
make it past the next hundred years or

989
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:27,020
so we're gonna have to come to terms

990
00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:29,570
with trying money because we haven't

991
00:42:35,770 --> 00:42:33,740
tried to take care of the planet for the

992
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,780
last few hundred years really I mean

993
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:37,760
we've just basically been looking at it

994
00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:40,040
as a big sink where we can dump wherever

995
00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:44,600
we want and it'd be like mother nature

996
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:50,630
take one for the team but we really need

997
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:53,690
to start getting back to looking at

998
00:43:00,730 --> 00:42:56,470
ourselves as stewards of the land I mean

999
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:00,740
there's kind of this baby boomer mindset

1000
00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:03,530
of I'm coming along I'm gonna take

1001
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:04,940
whatever I want and you know that's kind

1002
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:07,490
of it it's just like we need to get past

1003
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:10,310
that big time it's just gobbling

1004
00:43:15,250 --> 00:43:11,650
everything up making everything

1005
00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:15,260
disposable saying well I'll get mine and

1006
00:43:20,590 --> 00:43:18,440
whatever that's not gonna work this is

1007
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:20,600
not going to work going forward we're

1008
00:43:26,590 --> 00:43:22,220
destroying the earth to the point where

1009
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:26,600
we can't survive and the earth can soar

1010
00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:27,950
but I mean the earth will keep going

1011
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:30,020
even if it's just you know limping along

1012
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:31,730
for a few million years and then it

1013
00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:34,760
starts to chug again because ecosystems

1014
00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:37,190
rebuild themselves but you know if we're

1015
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:40,100
gonna be around we need to really make

1016
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:42,950
some big changes and the way we think

1017
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:45,020
about our interaction with nature right

1018
00:43:53,290 --> 00:43:49,670
right and just the eye opening reality

1019
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:53,300
of rivers and just how many nuances and

1020
00:43:55,569 --> 00:43:55,310
intricacies there are to the way of the

1021
00:43:58,269 --> 00:43:55,579
rib

1022
00:44:00,819 --> 00:43:58,279
flows the documentary said it almost

1023
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,829
makes it seem conscious to a degree it's

1024
00:44:08,019 --> 00:44:03,200
so interesting and then I guess this guy

1025
00:44:10,779 --> 00:44:08,029
Gore burr is now making rock shoots in

1026
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:10,789
the river he's basically putting big

1027
00:44:17,529 --> 00:44:13,670
boulders in the river to try to carry on

1028
00:44:18,969 --> 00:44:17,539
Victor's work and amplify the effects of

1029
00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:18,979
River some of the things that we might

1030
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:20,440
have destroyed and he talks about

1031
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:23,690
creating separate ecosystems because

1032
00:44:30,789 --> 00:44:26,930
certain animals certain fish require a

1033
00:44:32,979 --> 00:44:30,799
certain water pressure and water flow to

1034
00:44:35,319 --> 00:44:32,989
thrive in yeah and you can actually make

1035
00:44:38,739 --> 00:44:35,329
levels in the same River artificially

1036
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:38,749
using these natural principles and it

1037
00:44:44,469 --> 00:44:40,609
really just speaks to engineering

1038
00:44:46,499 --> 00:44:44,479
abundance it's just so damn cool yeah so

1039
00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:46,509
basically what he was doing was he

1040
00:44:52,569 --> 00:44:49,700
rather than building a concrete

1041
00:44:56,109 --> 00:44:52,579
enclosure for the water to hit up

1042
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:56,119
against and just keep it contained sort

1043
00:45:01,150 --> 00:44:57,440
of a strategy right

1044
00:45:03,309 --> 00:45:01,160
it's about rather than doing that you

1045
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,319
allow the water to be where it wants to

1046
00:45:07,299 --> 00:45:06,079
be but you just help guide it so that it

1047
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:07,309
doesn't get out of control

1048
00:45:11,799 --> 00:45:09,529
you put these boulders in place to help

1049
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:11,809
guide the central portion of the river

1050
00:45:17,049 --> 00:45:15,170
and keep it from drifting too far one

1051
00:45:19,630 --> 00:45:17,059
way or the other that the actual heavy

1052
00:45:23,319 --> 00:45:19,640
flow and then you make these smaller

1053
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:23,329
zones where it's not as turbulent fish

1054
00:45:27,819 --> 00:45:25,609
can hide there under the rocks and stuff

1055
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:27,829
like that and it gives these these

1056
00:45:33,609 --> 00:45:30,410
little pockets of areas where the fish

1057
00:45:36,459 --> 00:45:33,619
can hang out and poke around and not

1058
00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:36,469
have to be in the flow flow of the river

1059
00:45:42,459 --> 00:45:39,940
and stuff like that so mm-hmm but

1060
00:45:45,939 --> 00:45:42,469
basically the idea behind that is that

1061
00:45:48,249 --> 00:45:45,949
you can lift the river meander but you

1062
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:48,259
would keep it in like one set meander

1063
00:45:51,729 --> 00:45:50,089
you wouldn't let it keep changing over

1064
00:45:54,789 --> 00:45:51,739
the seasons and stuff like that

1065
00:45:56,949 --> 00:45:54,799
now that's good in terms of us being

1066
00:45:59,259 --> 00:45:56,959
able to live with natural rivers but

1067
00:46:01,089 --> 00:45:59,269
when terms of the land it's still that

1068
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,099
meandering of the river letting it

1069
00:46:06,910 --> 00:46:03,920
wander around had a big effect on the

1070
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:06,920
soil as well so you know we're still

1071
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:09,170
kind of letting nature do it

1072
00:46:13,089 --> 00:46:10,880
thing to a degree but you obviously

1073
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:13,099
can't have a river beside it's gonna go

1074
00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:16,910
through your backyard every other year

1075
00:46:21,819 --> 00:46:18,950
or something like that it's just there's

1076
00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:21,829
some constraints that we have to make in

1077
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:24,380
order to keep our society functioning

1078
00:46:27,579 --> 00:46:25,910
and moving forward we can't just say

1079
00:46:30,549 --> 00:46:27,589
okay we're just gonna tear everything

1080
00:46:32,049 --> 00:46:30,559
down but we have to realize that maybe

1081
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:32,059
we've done too much in some things as

1082
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:34,430
well right and maybe there's things we

1083
00:46:40,569 --> 00:46:37,730
can learn to work synergistically rather

1084
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:40,579
than just trying to beat back nature the

1085
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:42,530
way we do in such a primitive way with

1086
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:45,740
big concrete dams and all the stupid

1087
00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:48,170
stuff we do and I guess that documentary

1088
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:50,660
is called the secrets of water that if

1089
00:46:55,470 --> 00:46:52,430
anybody wants to find it on YouTube but

1090
00:46:58,690 --> 00:46:55,480
even in there I mean they talk about

1091
00:47:01,630 --> 00:46:58,700
vortex generators and motors that could

1092
00:47:04,299 --> 00:47:01,640
possibly power a house finally we have

1093
00:47:05,770 --> 00:47:04,309
Elon Musk talking about his batteries

1094
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:05,780
that could power a house but here we

1095
00:47:10,180 --> 00:47:07,790
have principles in nature just looking

1096
00:47:13,390 --> 00:47:10,190
well things that you could derive from

1097
00:47:15,250 --> 00:47:13,400
observing nature apparently and these

1098
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:15,260
mechanisms could do the same thing and

1099
00:47:21,250 --> 00:47:18,319
probably a lot longer ago well I mean

1100
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:21,260
viktor schauberger was talking about

1101
00:47:26,650 --> 00:47:25,010
this stuff and a 30s to 50s early part

1102
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:26,660
of the 50s when all this stuff got

1103
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:30,680
basically stolen by a Texas consortium

1104
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:35,290
with some German sounding names in it so

1105
00:47:40,210 --> 00:47:38,089
for sure that's so interesting to the

1106
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:40,220
fact that right in that time period

1107
00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:41,690
we've talked about other things that

1108
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:44,660
involve German nationalists operating in

1109
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:47,049
early America and here we have another

1110
00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:49,880
possible thing where again it ties into

1111
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:51,980
the realm of sciences and suppression

1112
00:47:57,730 --> 00:47:55,280
and Germans well I mean there's also the

1113
00:47:59,920 --> 00:47:57,740
fact that during the war he was

1114
00:48:01,720 --> 00:47:59,930
conscripted by the Germans as well

1115
00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:01,730
during World War two

1116
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,520
he was working on the repulsing which

1117
00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:06,559
there's probably aspects of the Cahuenga

1118
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,740
effect in it but also from what I

1119
00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:11,599
understand there was also I initially

1120
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:16,540
and so he was working on anti-gravity

1121
00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:19,520
vehicles for the Germans and there's

1122
00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:21,260
still models of these and they look like

1123
00:48:25,299 --> 00:48:22,940
these little UFOs

1124
00:48:28,420 --> 00:48:25,309
for people who aren't familiar the

1125
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:28,430
repulsing is basically a anti-gravity

1126
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:31,430
engine yeah yeah and this is something

1127
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:34,490
that you know nobody denies yeah you can

1128
00:48:41,470 --> 00:48:38,690
find pictures of it apparently they have

1129
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:41,480
lost or misplaced or someone's hiding

1130
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:44,569
the working engines or Victor Victor's

1131
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:47,569
last engine and the documentary goes

1132
00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:49,670
into that a little bit that it's kind of

1133
00:48:53,980 --> 00:48:51,980
a mysterious story of where it is it

1134
00:48:56,109 --> 00:48:53,990
popped up at a conference once or some

1135
00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:56,119
photos of it some elaborate photos of it

1136
00:49:02,140 --> 00:48:58,730
popped up at a conference and then that

1137
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:02,150
guy disappeared and who knows but it's

1138
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:05,530
somewhere just beneath the surface yeah

1139
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:08,750
you know all this stuff it always seems

1140
00:49:17,260 --> 00:49:11,359
to just kind of fizzle out into mystery

1141
00:49:19,809 --> 00:49:17,270
doesn't it it does so but yeah viktor

1142
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:19,819
schauberger if we were just able to

1143
00:49:25,539 --> 00:49:22,160
recreate his implosion chamber which was

1144
00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:25,549
this egg-shaped vessel with cooling

1145
00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:29,630
tubes and stuff like that and

1146
00:49:36,670 --> 00:49:32,150
he was able to basically make clean

1147
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:36,680
water and make power and if you just had

1148
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:38,140
that

1149
00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:43,660
people to be able to you know do a

1150
00:49:48,479 --> 00:49:45,700
decent job of making a living without

1151
00:49:49,979 --> 00:49:48,489
being held over a barrel if you have

1152
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:49,989
water and you have energy that you can

1153
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,730
make food and you can make this and you

1154
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:53,680
can make that and just having that base

1155
00:50:00,359 --> 00:49:56,470
of something available that would

1156
00:50:01,979 --> 00:50:00,369
alleviate some of the basics would go so

1157
00:50:03,809 --> 00:50:01,989
far towards making the world a better

1158
00:50:08,009 --> 00:50:03,819
place but like you said it gets gobbled

1159
00:50:11,549 --> 00:50:08,019
up dis Pierce yeah it's a sad thing man

1160
00:50:13,799 --> 00:50:11,559
and on the subject of suppression with

1161
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:13,809
Victor Shaw burgers work in particular I

1162
00:50:18,299 --> 00:50:16,150
guess this poeple report is one thing

1163
00:50:21,210 --> 00:50:18,309
that destroyed his credibility or a good

1164
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:21,220
chunk of it right well it should have

1165
00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:25,119
actually boosted his credibility but the

1166
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,150
professor who worked on the test wanted

1167
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:30,880
to gloss over the most interesting

1168
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:33,700
findings which was that there at two

1169
00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:37,630
velocities in this pipe so basically

1170
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:40,029
this pipe was think of a regular pipe

1171
00:50:45,660 --> 00:50:43,210
and then think of it having a spiral on

1172
00:50:48,569 --> 00:50:45,670
the inside or veins on the inside to

1173
00:50:50,999 --> 00:50:48,579
cause it to go into a vortex like you'd

1174
00:50:54,269 --> 00:50:51,009
see going down the drain of your toilet

1175
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,279
or down the drain of your bathtub for

1176
00:50:59,820 --> 00:50:56,800
sake but

1177
00:51:03,200 --> 00:50:59,830
at two different velocities during this

1178
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:03,210
test they found that the friction went

1179
00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:07,630
down to zero or even below zero which

1180
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:09,400
means if it has negative friction it's

1181
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:13,570
being pulled along so that means that

1182
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:18,310
somehow just having an induced vortex in

1183
00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:20,470
the water if it reaches these specific

1184
00:51:26,130 --> 00:51:22,750
velocities it will tap into the

1185
00:51:28,170 --> 00:51:26,140
zero-point energy it will be able to

1186
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:28,180
actually float along so you don't at

1187
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:31,110
that point as long as you're able to

1188
00:51:40,110 --> 00:51:35,590
maintain that velocity then you don't

1189
00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:40,120
need pumps huh if you order things

1190
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:41,620
correctly in the way that you have

1191
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,500
things flow through hydraulic systems

1192
00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:47,440
you can have things going places without

1193
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:50,200
any pumping going on and it just

1194
00:51:56,430 --> 00:51:52,690
maintains the stable vortex as it flows

1195
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:56,440
along just by utilizing spirals in the

1196
00:52:00,060 --> 00:51:56,890
plumbing

1197
00:52:01,350 --> 00:52:00,070
basically yep huh I mean there god

1198
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:01,360
there's just so much we don't know and

1199
00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:03,550
you know when I recorded that episode

1200
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:06,280
with dr. Judy wood about 9/11 and the

1201
00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:08,260
idea of secret technology used towards

1202
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:09,640
the end of that it got a little weird

1203
00:52:14,130 --> 00:52:10,870
where she started talking about

1204
00:52:17,070 --> 00:52:14,140
tornadoes and basically vortexes and

1205
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:17,080
zero-point energy and almost cavitation

1206
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:18,970
because there is a cavity in the middle

1207
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:22,410
of a vortex or of a of a tornado and

1208
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:25,050
just how that could be used

1209
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:26,860
technologically and maybe that's

1210
00:52:31,340 --> 00:52:28,810
connected and to some degree but it

1211
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:31,350
seems like in that same realm of

1212
00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:35,050
spiraling technologies that are shown to

1213
00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:37,000
us in nature that we just don't harness

1214
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:41,350
properly for our own energy needs so the

1215
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:44,410
way that it's described by more a bee

1216
00:52:50,310 --> 00:52:47,050
king is that when you have these vortex

1217
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:50,320
formations and in a vortex you have a

1218
00:52:56,190 --> 00:52:54,310
stable structure and you're able to get

1219
00:52:59,460 --> 00:52:56,200
high flow velocities within a

1220
00:53:02,220 --> 00:52:59,470
self-contained unit and you're able by

1221
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,230
pulsing it quickly or you're able to tap

1222
00:53:08,740 --> 00:53:04,640
into the zero-point energy

1223
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:08,750
and in these non-equilibrium sorts of

1224
00:53:14,380 --> 00:53:11,510
formations that happen start to tap into

1225
00:53:18,009 --> 00:53:14,390
it when you disturb that structure when

1226
00:53:21,549 --> 00:53:18,019
you hit it really hard then you create

1227
00:53:25,210 --> 00:53:21,559
these fluctuations in the background of

1228
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:25,220
space the ether and by being able to tap

1229
00:53:30,670 --> 00:53:27,529
into that by separating the charges

1230
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:30,680
somehow you can get this energy out and

1231
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:34,480
you can put it towards all sorts of uses

1232
00:53:40,210 --> 00:53:38,410
heating cooling levitation you know

1233
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:40,220
gravitation and all these different

1234
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:43,910
things that are results of the etheric

1235
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,430
vortex structure that underlies the atom

1236
00:53:52,329 --> 00:53:49,760
itself the atom are not billiard balls

1237
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:52,339
little kind of moving around it's more

1238
00:54:01,329 --> 00:53:57,680
like flows of ether that are comprising

1239
00:54:03,099 --> 00:54:01,339
matter right man and yeah cuz she was

1240
00:54:04,990 --> 00:54:03,109
with the tornado thing she was talking

1241
00:54:06,940 --> 00:54:05,000
about if you look at the aftermath of

1242
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:06,950
the wreckage of a tornado you can find

1243
00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:09,650
some very strange clues like trans

1244
00:54:14,980 --> 00:54:12,259
mutated material or wood that's been

1245
00:54:17,499 --> 00:54:14,990
embedded in steel and that just that

1246
00:54:19,930 --> 00:54:17,509
same kind of stuff like there's just

1247
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:19,940
weird things that happen weird effects

1248
00:54:25,299 --> 00:54:22,730
on matter within certain vortexes and I

1249
00:54:27,970 --> 00:54:25,309
guess it's just overlooked I mean it

1250
00:54:29,799 --> 00:54:27,980
seems so fascinating that I want to look

1251
00:54:31,299 --> 00:54:29,809
at more wreckage from tornadoes and see

1252
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:31,309
if I can find that kind of weird stuff

1253
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:33,529
but I guess people just think oh well it

1254
00:54:38,049 --> 00:54:35,690
was moving at such a fast speed in that

1255
00:54:39,999 --> 00:54:38,059
and that vortex I guess it just went

1256
00:54:43,329 --> 00:54:40,009
right through but a lot of it kind of

1257
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:43,339
defies conventional logic I guess well

1258
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,160
what you're doing is you're kind of like

1259
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:47,359
unzipping the atom you know everybody

1260
00:54:52,329 --> 00:54:49,849
knows the atom is is mostly empty space

1261
00:54:54,579 --> 00:54:52,339
right yeah what's really holding this

1262
00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:54,589
all together are these spins of these

1263
00:54:59,039 --> 00:54:56,660
little what we call subatomic particles

1264
00:55:02,890 --> 00:54:59,049
but what they really are these small

1265
00:55:06,730 --> 00:55:02,900
forms of stable worte seas of the ether

1266
00:55:10,359 --> 00:55:06,740
and as you start to have this entrained

1267
00:55:12,099 --> 00:55:10,369
ether that's spinning it starts to make

1268
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,109
all these other spinning things change

1269
00:55:16,839 --> 00:55:14,000
how they're flowing and moving and so

1270
00:55:17,890 --> 00:55:16,849
then you can get atoms interweaving with

1271
00:55:20,799 --> 00:55:17,900
other atoms

1272
00:55:23,019 --> 00:55:20,809
this stress in the ether is embedded

1273
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:23,029
across the area and so you're getting

1274
00:55:27,010 --> 00:55:24,890
into all this weird stuff like the

1275
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,020
Hutchinson effect and that things like

1276
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:30,079
that you know and you could go back to

1277
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,410
Project rainbow and the whole what was

1278
00:55:37,089 --> 00:55:35,119
that ship that they had disappear and

1279
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,099
then reappear the Philadelphia

1280
00:55:40,269 --> 00:55:39,200
Experiment Philadelphia experiment and

1281
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:40,279
all that stuff

1282
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,520
the Eldridge yeah I loved it I guess

1283
00:55:47,799 --> 00:55:45,680
this would be the kind of stuff that

1284
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:47,809
would comprise the scientific field of

1285
00:55:53,170 --> 00:55:50,480
alchemy and transmutation of matter if

1286
00:55:55,269 --> 00:55:53,180
that was on the table whatsoever well

1287
00:55:57,849 --> 00:55:55,279
you do have transmutation of matter it's

1288
00:55:59,859 --> 00:55:57,859
just it's only allowed by fission and

1289
00:56:02,260 --> 00:55:59,869
the certain you know if they constrain

1290
00:56:04,109 --> 00:56:02,270
everything so tightly that this is the

1291
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:04,119
only place you can look for this

1292
00:56:11,319 --> 00:56:06,970
anywhere else in it it defies physics

1293
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:11,329
but really you can't hold observation to

1294
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:14,569
theory mm-hmm observation has to leap

1295
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:17,450
theory yeah and we talked a little bit

1296
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:19,609
about this off the air but it does get

1297
00:56:24,819 --> 00:56:22,670
into that weird realm of our backwards

1298
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:24,829
nature to our sciences that like they're

1299
00:56:28,450 --> 00:56:26,930
almost all the methods we use are

1300
00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:28,460
opposite from nature the implosion

1301
00:56:34,180 --> 00:56:31,000
explosion fusion versus fission

1302
00:56:35,620 --> 00:56:34,190
integration burst degradation and I find

1303
00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:35,630
that interesting because if shows about

1304
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,200
science being derived from dark forces

1305
00:56:42,190 --> 00:56:40,400
episodes with guys like Chris Knowles

1306
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:42,200
and the whole Lucifer's technology

1307
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,990
perspective like if there was a group of

1308
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:47,200
trickster entities inspiring

1309
00:56:51,309 --> 00:56:49,010
technological progression down a

1310
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,319
negative path this sort of syncs up with

1311
00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:54,079
how opposite our methods seemed to

1312
00:56:59,019 --> 00:56:56,809
actually be from natural processes

1313
00:57:01,240 --> 00:56:59,029
couldn't you say well that's exactly

1314
00:57:03,069 --> 00:57:01,250
what viktor schauberger said he said if

1315
00:57:04,990 --> 00:57:03,079
you want to know the right way to do

1316
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:05,000
things do it the exact opposite of the

1317
00:57:09,370 --> 00:57:06,770
way we're doing it right now and what he

1318
00:57:11,710 --> 00:57:09,380
was talking about was the way we make

1319
00:57:13,569 --> 00:57:11,720
energies by blowing stuff up and the way

1320
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,579
we handle politics is by blowing stuff

1321
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:16,640
up you know it's coming from the same

1322
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:21,049
mindset so when you look at everything

1323
00:57:26,019 --> 00:57:23,569
whether it's nuclear power I mean except

1324
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:26,029
for say like you know solar cells

1325
00:57:29,710 --> 00:57:27,770
instead that's that's a different

1326
00:57:31,569 --> 00:57:29,720
mechanism but most of them are basically

1327
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:31,579
converting heat

1328
00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:33,880
into some sort of rotational energy and

1329
00:57:40,930 --> 00:57:37,400
whether that heat source is coal or oil

1330
00:57:46,059 --> 00:57:40,940
or whether it's the nuclear reaction

1331
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,069
it's all driving heating steam and then

1332
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:47,839
once you heat that steam you put it

1333
00:57:52,539 --> 00:57:49,690
through a turbine and then that turbine

1334
00:57:54,219 --> 00:57:52,549
runs a generator and that generator gets

1335
00:57:59,529 --> 00:57:54,229
you what you need in terms of power but

1336
00:58:01,269 --> 00:57:59,539
it's all this explosion energy and what

1337
00:58:04,209 --> 00:58:01,279
viktor schauberger was talking about was

1338
00:58:07,509 --> 00:58:04,219
a form of implosion energy so rather

1339
00:58:11,410 --> 00:58:07,519
than things diffusing themselves

1340
00:58:14,099 --> 00:58:11,420
expanding radially than they're infusing

1341
00:58:17,469 --> 00:58:14,109
themselves as they contract radially and

1342
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:17,479
you get a buildup of structure rather

1343
00:58:23,799 --> 00:58:20,329
than a degradation of structure and it

1344
00:58:26,259 --> 00:58:23,809
is what he called the science of extra P

1345
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:26,269
versus entropy that's one of his own

1346
00:58:31,449 --> 00:58:29,569
words and he had a lot of those so I'm

1347
00:58:33,809 --> 00:58:31,459
not going to really go much beyond that

1348
00:58:37,029 --> 00:58:33,819
because they get really confusing

1349
00:58:40,089 --> 00:58:37,039
firk two gins and dine engines and you

1350
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:40,099
know stuff that you it takes too much to

1351
00:58:45,219 --> 00:58:42,529
lead up into the describing his verbage

1352
00:58:47,859 --> 00:58:45,229
but fair enough you know like you've

1353
00:58:49,870 --> 00:58:47,869
said there have been scientific councils

1354
00:58:52,479 --> 00:58:49,880
that sort of battled it out and decided

1355
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,489
where science or medicine was gonna go

1356
00:58:58,029 --> 00:58:54,319
and where it wasn't gonna go right I

1357
00:58:59,920 --> 00:58:58,039
mean that's happened yeah yeah and I

1358
00:59:02,049 --> 00:58:59,930
mean it's the same thing with trade

1359
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:02,059
councils and stuff like that these are

1360
00:59:08,739 --> 00:59:05,170
the ways Council on Foreign Relations

1361
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,749
that's a lot of everything you know this

1362
00:59:13,779 --> 00:59:11,359
is the way that they guide things from

1363
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:13,789
the top this is how this top-down

1364
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:17,569
structure commands what you can work on

1365
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:19,910
what the boundaries are and that's

1366
00:59:23,529 --> 00:59:21,440
critical to keeping this stuff

1367
00:59:25,509 --> 00:59:23,539
controlled they're starting to you know

1368
00:59:27,279 --> 00:59:25,519
I've sent you some articles before and

1369
00:59:29,289 --> 00:59:27,289
they're starting to kind of let the

1370
00:59:32,529 --> 00:59:29,299
genie out of the bottle with some of

1371
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,539
this science but they haven't completely

1372
00:59:36,219 --> 00:59:34,640
let it go and they they aren't going to

1373
00:59:38,229 --> 00:59:36,229
ever talk about the stuff that's gone on

1374
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:38,239
the past what they're looking at are

1375
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:41,920
finding ways to have this sort of stuff

1376
00:59:47,809 --> 00:59:44,880
released in a controlled manner

1377
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,819
they control some aspect of its

1378
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,680
production so it's still under their

1379
00:59:56,029 --> 00:59:51,839
purview right of course

1380
00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:56,039
so by framing it very narrowly in terms

1381
01:00:02,120 --> 00:59:58,430
of this is an acceptable scientific

1382
01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:02,130
understanding you can say well this free

1383
01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:04,380
energy device works because we can

1384
01:00:08,749 --> 01:00:06,150
control this aspect of the manufacturing

1385
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:08,759
process or this or that but this other

1386
01:00:15,259 --> 01:00:12,089
one does even though the same principle

1387
01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:15,269
so that's you know that's how this keeps

1388
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:16,920
people from really thinking about it

1389
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:18,690
it's just you frame it in such a way

1390
01:00:24,019 --> 01:00:20,970
that it's oh that violates the second

1391
01:00:26,539 --> 01:00:24,029
law of thermodynamics even though there

1392
01:00:28,759 --> 01:00:26,549
are Nobel prizes and stuff like that

1393
01:00:31,089 --> 01:00:28,769
that talk about things that violate the

1394
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:31,099
second law of thermodynamics you know

1395
01:00:35,539 --> 01:00:33,930
exactly you just make the box the

1396
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,549
parameters and then you just say well

1397
01:00:40,099 --> 01:00:37,680
nothing can exist outside of here so why

1398
01:00:42,109 --> 01:00:40,109
even discuss it yeah but and that

1399
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:42,119
happens a lot in engineering I'm sure

1400
01:00:47,059 --> 01:00:44,940
specifically because they don't want

1401
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:47,069
them to think about you know the

1402
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:49,890
ramifications of zero-point energy in

1403
01:00:54,259 --> 01:00:51,690
physics it's something that is known in

1404
01:00:56,709 --> 01:00:54,269
physics but if you keep the physicists

1405
01:00:59,329 --> 01:00:56,719
from talking to the engineers too long

1406
01:01:00,979 --> 01:00:59,339
then the physicist won't come up with a

1407
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:00,989
way to actually tap into this stuff and

1408
01:01:04,579 --> 01:01:02,729
the engineers won't realize I need to

1409
01:01:06,709 --> 01:01:04,589
think about how to tap into this yeah

1410
01:01:08,209 --> 01:01:06,719
yeah because there's the people who come

1411
01:01:09,859 --> 01:01:08,219
up with the science of it then there's

1412
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:09,869
the people who create the devices that

1413
01:01:16,759 --> 01:01:13,380
use it yeah just keep him separated like

1414
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:16,769
offspring said yeah so to get back to

1415
01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:19,049
Victor a little bit you mentioned that

1416
01:01:24,769 --> 01:01:21,150
Texas group that ended up with all his

1417
01:01:26,749 --> 01:01:24,779
work and how that speaks to what we've

1418
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:26,759
talked about before these pockets of

1419
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,180
post-war German networks like the Sonora

1420
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:31,920
Aero Club would be another example of

1421
01:01:36,769 --> 01:01:34,529
pockets of German people working on

1422
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:36,779
secret technology outside of the realm

1423
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:40,079
of what's known and I guess this is just

1424
01:01:46,219 --> 01:01:43,369
another thing that points to it right

1425
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:46,229
well it speaks to the fact that

1426
01:01:50,299 --> 01:01:48,809
immediately after the where I mean

1427
01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:50,309
you're talking within ten years of the

1428
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:52,920
war there's this consortium and you know

1429
01:01:58,220 --> 01:01:56,640
whether it's paperclip Nazis or whether

1430
01:01:59,720 --> 01:01:58,230
it's just

1431
01:02:03,730 --> 01:01:59,730
Consortium that's been working behind

1432
01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:03,740
the scenes or it's post-war German

1433
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:05,940
nationalists who are working with their

1434
01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:08,880
partners in the u.s. to try and keep

1435
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:12,390
this stuff contained we don't know but

1436
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:15,960
it speaks to the fact that there were

1437
01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:19,920
elements of the Nazi Party and things

1438
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:21,990
like that that we're operating within

1439
01:02:29,390 --> 01:02:24,420
the United States during and after the

1440
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:29,400
war and whatever this party really was I

1441
01:02:34,849 --> 01:02:31,650
think that they really were not see

1442
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:34,859
related for one thing because he was

1443
01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:37,440
conscripted by the Nazis now viktor

1444
01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:40,260
schauberger he was probably the only

1445
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:41,880
scientist i've ever heard of who

1446
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:44,970
actually demanded good living conditions

1447
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:47,850
for his workers so like he refused to

1448
01:02:53,630 --> 01:02:50,609
work for the nazis unless they treated

1449
01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:53,640
his workers well hmm but that's the only

1450
01:02:58,340 --> 01:02:55,950
one I've heard of where anybody made

1451
01:03:02,390 --> 01:02:58,350
that request and actually had it granted

1452
01:03:03,859 --> 01:03:02,400
by the dots Wow so damn you know most

1453
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:03,869
people they would have just said screw

1454
01:03:08,090 --> 01:03:05,850
you we're doing what would you just

1455
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:08,100
drive them as hard as you can and hope

1456
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:09,570
we don't keep a gun too close to your

1457
01:03:17,810 --> 01:03:14,960
head you know exactly man so I guess to

1458
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:17,820
switch gears a little bit we also were

1459
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:19,650
going to talk about Alec Bartholomew's

1460
01:03:26,530 --> 01:03:22,890
book and some of his stuff about the

1461
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:26,540
ionosphere in particular right yeah well

1462
01:03:32,750 --> 01:03:29,730
so he's working off of shale burgers

1463
01:03:35,930 --> 01:03:32,760
material and what shale burger and you

1464
01:03:37,609 --> 01:03:35,940
know NASA confirms the stratification of

1465
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:37,619
layers between the earth and the

1466
01:03:42,349 --> 01:03:39,920
ionosphere there's all these different

1467
01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:42,359
temperatures that are stratified through

1468
01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:44,760
the ionosphere and you know it gets up

1469
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:48,359
to hundreds of degrees and then it'll go

1470
01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:50,310
down to like below freezing and then

1471
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:52,200
other places they're these stratified

1472
01:03:55,940 --> 01:03:53,910
layers where they're exactly at four

1473
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:55,950
degrees Celsius which is this anomaly

1474
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:58,290
point of water you know if you think

1475
01:04:02,870 --> 01:03:59,760
about it that's kind of like a big

1476
01:04:04,820 --> 01:04:02,880
capacitor you've got this shale and

1477
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:04,830
these different layers that have

1478
01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:07,440
different properties in terms of you

1479
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:09,900
know letting ions and things through

1480
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:12,090
them so you're talking about

1481
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:15,180
this huge store of energy and that's

1482
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:17,640
also you know Tesla was tapping into

1483
01:04:22,610 --> 01:04:19,410
that with his warden flip tower and

1484
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:22,620
stuff like that and also there's this

1485
01:04:27,590 --> 01:04:25,050
theory of Shou burgers where he talks

1486
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:27,600
about cosmic fertilization and he he

1487
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:29,910
basically talks about how the Sun and

1488
01:04:35,030 --> 01:04:33,210
it's light it is fertilizing the earth

1489
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:35,040
and there's this diagram where he shows

1490
01:04:39,740 --> 01:04:38,010
the sun's rays coming into the earth and

1491
01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:39,750
then in the inside of the earth in the

1492
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:42,180
very center there's this rear ad a ssin

1493
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:45,210
that's going on and I think that that

1494
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:47,700
speaks to some of his understanding of

1495
01:04:52,070 --> 01:04:50,160
how something like an internal Sun

1496
01:04:56,180 --> 01:04:52,080
inside of a Hollow Earth might develop

1497
01:04:57,590 --> 01:04:56,190
right boom there it is yeah all this

1498
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:57,600
stuff you know it all kind of ties

1499
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:00,720
together and we'll get into that a bit

1500
01:05:05,450 --> 01:05:03,390
more when we get into the other door for

1501
01:05:06,860 --> 01:05:05,460
booking stuff right you know what else

1502
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:06,870
would you like to talk about before we

1503
01:05:09,950 --> 01:05:08,610
do get into the netted or first stuff

1504
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:09,960
are there other things we've left on the

1505
01:05:16,220 --> 01:05:13,350
table well a lot of shell burgers

1506
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,230
designs they used golden mean and golden

1507
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:18,720
ratio sacred geometry in them so that

1508
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,150
was very important to him right again

1509
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:24,240
nature yeah you see that all throughout

1510
01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:28,950
nature so there's one thing that I would

1511
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:30,660
like to discuss and that's just kind of

1512
01:05:35,810 --> 01:05:34,170
for people to have an idea of what his

1513
01:05:37,940 --> 01:05:35,820
recommendations were with regard to

1514
01:05:40,310 --> 01:05:37,950
water since it's something that's so

1515
01:05:43,850 --> 01:05:40,320
ubiquitous and we all need it and

1516
01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:43,860
treating it properly will help to keep

1517
01:05:48,380 --> 01:05:46,350
you healthy so here are some of the key

1518
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:48,390
points that schauberger points out so

1519
01:05:53,660 --> 01:05:51,090
water's enemy is excess heat and light

1520
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:53,670
water contains oxygen a substance that's

1521
01:05:57,380 --> 01:05:55,290
essential for the processes of growth

1522
01:05:59,210 --> 01:05:57,390
and decay below a temperature of nine

1523
01:06:00,500 --> 01:05:59,220
degrees Celsius oxygen is used for

1524
01:06:03,830 --> 01:06:00,510
growth above that to promote

1525
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:03,840
decomposition so water should really be

1526
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:07,110
maintained below 48 degrees Fahrenheit

1527
01:06:12,620 --> 01:06:10,650
about as the temperature rises above 50

1528
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,630
degrees Fahrenheit the oxygen becomes

1529
01:06:16,610 --> 01:06:14,400
increasingly more aggressive promoting

1530
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:16,620
pathogenic bacteria that can give us

1531
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:18,090
disease when we drink the water

1532
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:20,070
containing them tank your sister and

1533
01:06:22,820 --> 01:06:21,330
that is both ground needs to be well

1534
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:22,830
insulated and painted white drift like

1535
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:24,660
the sun's heat there's mostly below

1536
01:06:27,580 --> 01:06:26,240
ground and walls will not wear

1537
01:06:29,710 --> 01:06:27,590
installation but the top must reflect

1538
01:06:31,540 --> 01:06:29,720
heat Viktor advised against using

1539
01:06:33,070 --> 01:06:31,550
rectangular storage containers for water

1540
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:33,080
as they degraded the water and did not

1541
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:35,450
allow for its natural movement although

1542
01:06:40,420 --> 01:06:38,570
it might be difficult to source the only

1543
01:06:42,010 --> 01:06:40,430
container that allows for this movement

1544
01:06:43,690 --> 01:06:42,020
is the egg shape the material of

1545
01:06:45,850 --> 01:06:43,700
containment is very important because

1546
01:06:48,070 --> 01:06:45,860
water needs to keep cool and breathe and

1547
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:48,080
the best materials are natural stone

1548
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:52,160
wood and terracotta so that's just kind

1549
01:06:58,960 --> 01:06:55,490
of some of his overall recommendations

1550
01:07:02,230 --> 01:06:58,970
for water now mostly what we do today is

1551
01:07:04,270 --> 01:07:02,240
we add things to it like chlorine which

1552
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:04,280
degrades the water and stuff like that

1553
01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:07,760
just the way we move water through pipes

1554
01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:10,220
is also very damaging to the structure

1555
01:07:14,310 --> 01:07:11,630
of water there's 90-degree turns

1556
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:14,320
everywhere and pumping it with our

1557
01:07:20,050 --> 01:07:16,970
centrifugal pumps rather than some

1558
01:07:21,220 --> 01:07:20,060
triple pumps it's very damaging and and

1559
01:07:23,410 --> 01:07:21,230
then we have the way we transport it

1560
01:07:26,170 --> 01:07:23,420
it's all open to the air the Sun just

1561
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:26,180
hits it and degrades it on its way as

1562
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:28,930
it's being transported around States so

1563
01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:32,290
we need to completely if we're going to

1564
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:35,150
live happy healthy lives one of the big

1565
01:07:38,050 --> 01:07:36,530
things we need to do is completely

1566
01:07:41,230 --> 01:07:38,060
restructure the way that we think about

1567
01:07:42,849 --> 01:07:41,240
water and how we handle it and you know

1568
01:07:44,740 --> 01:07:42,859
one of those things is actually you know

1569
01:07:48,130 --> 01:07:44,750
every day I wake up and one of the first

1570
01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:48,140
things I do is I pee in a in a nice big

1571
01:07:54,790 --> 01:07:52,700
pot of water and I think that we can

1572
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:54,800
find better things to do with it than to

1573
01:08:00,250 --> 01:07:57,890
just crap in it and throw it away right

1574
01:08:02,410 --> 01:08:00,260
there's a really funny meme about that

1575
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:02,420
with a kid in Africa it says like let me

1576
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:05,090
get this straight you've got bowls of

1577
01:08:11,530 --> 01:08:07,130
clean water piped right into your house

1578
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:11,540
and you [\h__\h] in it it's like yeah man

1579
01:08:19,660 --> 01:08:15,260
sorry sorry to say we do well you know

1580
01:08:23,410 --> 01:08:19,670
back in the 19th century the late 1800s

1581
01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:23,420
Paris actually had a completely vacuum

1582
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:26,779
based waste handling system for urine

1583
01:08:32,230 --> 01:08:30,049
and defecation yeah so basically if you

1584
01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:32,240
ever gone to the bank and shut your

1585
01:08:38,530 --> 01:08:35,000
cheque over on a tube yeah yeah it's

1586
01:08:40,030 --> 01:08:38,540
like imagine having a vacuum that you

1587
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:40,040
just open up the valve and it sucks

1588
01:08:44,170 --> 01:08:41,510
out your poop and it sucks out your

1589
01:08:45,849 --> 01:08:44,180
urine and then it goes to a place where

1590
01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:45,859
you know that a fraction of the water is

1591
01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:48,200
used to convey it right but that stuff

1592
01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:49,940
that was available since then it's just

1593
01:08:54,970 --> 01:08:51,920
everybody's gone to the water systems

1594
01:08:56,770 --> 01:08:54,980
because it's less costly in terms of the

1595
01:08:59,320 --> 01:08:56,780
equipment right you just let the water

1596
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:59,330
flow and that carries it off and you

1597
01:09:03,309 --> 01:09:00,799
need to deal with the clog you deal with

1598
01:09:05,170 --> 01:09:03,319
that but the pumping systems for the

1599
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:05,180
vacuum which was more intensive and

1600
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,370
stuff like that for boats right and we

1601
01:09:11,050 --> 01:09:08,960
should at a minimum I guess be using

1602
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,060
those spiral pipes that would help out

1603
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:14,080
quite a bit apparently well I I mean

1604
01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:16,850
yeah but it's verboten it didn't you

1605
01:09:24,849 --> 01:09:21,230
can't do that right as long as you can't

1606
01:09:26,770 --> 01:09:24,859
then you won't right true true but

1607
01:09:29,230 --> 01:09:26,780
people who are making those pipes but

1608
01:09:31,480 --> 01:09:29,240
without having a big retooling for that

1609
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:31,490
sort of thing it's very costly to make

1610
01:09:35,950 --> 01:09:33,440
by hand which is basically it's big

1611
01:09:37,450 --> 01:09:35,960
right now by a few people right and

1612
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:37,460
apparently we'd have to have much

1613
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:39,350
cleaner water because there was another

1614
01:09:43,450 --> 01:09:41,390
guy you sent me his work theater or

1615
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:43,460
Schwank I believe and he talks about how

1616
01:09:48,579 --> 01:09:46,850
pollutants affect the water in those

1617
01:09:50,860 --> 01:09:48,589
vortexes or how it affects water

1618
01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:50,870
vortexes probably in a more natural

1619
01:09:57,730 --> 01:09:53,200
state but that's a big deal too right

1620
01:10:00,370 --> 01:09:57,740
yeah so basically one of the things that

1621
01:10:02,230 --> 01:10:00,380
he looked at was pollutants from brewery

1622
01:10:06,010 --> 01:10:02,240
and domestic wastewater and how that

1623
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:06,020
impacted the it so his tests were very

1624
01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:07,610
similar to what is it

1625
01:10:15,610 --> 01:10:11,270
Masaru Emoto s-- research only with

1626
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:15,620
liquids rather than ice so where Masaru

1627
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:18,290
Emoto would freeze water while somebody

1628
01:10:23,260 --> 01:10:20,810
was projecting their emotions at it or

1629
01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:23,270
saying something or just doing something

1630
01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:26,440
emotive that would deal with the water

1631
01:10:31,420 --> 01:10:29,060
he was able to form different crystals

1632
01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:31,430
and show that there was an effect there

1633
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:34,820
now this is dealing with pollution

1634
01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:37,970
rather than emotional pollution say that

1635
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,910
this is more physical pollution right

1636
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:44,400
it deals with how the water table is

1637
01:10:48,980 --> 01:10:47,010
structure and so it similar to what

1638
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:48,990
Victor was saying about the temperatures

1639
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:51,290
at that done water and its capacity for

1640
01:10:57,620 --> 01:10:54,450
life he found that when pollutants were

1641
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:57,630
introduced about six football fields

1642
01:11:04,070 --> 01:10:59,840
downstream the water's ability to vortex

1643
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:04,080
was just terrible and it had bacteria

1644
01:11:09,710 --> 01:11:06,600
and worms that that dominated the stream

1645
01:11:11,950 --> 01:11:09,720
so there wasn't much in the way of

1646
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:11,960
higher ordered life that could actually

1647
01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:16,050
withstand living in that water yeah so

1648
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,660
about a mile downstream he found that

1649
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:20,640
the water was beginning to have lateral

1650
01:11:24,290 --> 01:11:22,500
structure forming he basically what he

1651
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:24,300
do is he drop a little drop of this

1652
01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:27,030
water and then he'd have a picture taken

1653
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,340
at a certain point and he kept doing

1654
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:31,920
those tests over and over again to see

1655
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:34,080
what happened when the water fell into a

1656
01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:36,150
pool of water and how the vortex

1657
01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:38,340
structures form because that deals with

1658
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:42,840
the structure of the water and so

1659
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:45,690
by about a mile he started to get some

1660
01:11:52,189 --> 01:11:48,690
lateral structures some side structures

1661
01:11:55,129 --> 01:11:52,199
on the drop as it dripped into the water

1662
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:55,139
and that's where larvae of insects

1663
01:12:00,770 --> 01:11:58,290
started to develop and a large part of

1664
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:00,780
the substances that were introduced had

1665
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:04,080
been degraded so that kind of speaks to

1666
01:12:09,649 --> 01:12:06,719
viktor schauberger errs idea of water

1667
01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:09,659
needing to chew its rocks like he talks

1668
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:11,670
about water like it's living he said

1669
01:12:15,530 --> 01:12:13,260
that it needed to chew its rock so there

1670
01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:15,540
was like a degradation step that needs

1671
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:17,699
to happen in development water where

1672
01:12:23,810 --> 01:12:21,330
it's transforming these materials into a

1673
01:12:26,780 --> 01:12:23,820
less ordered state so that it can build

1674
01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:26,790
it back up again and so that's part of

1675
01:12:31,820 --> 01:12:28,860
what's going on during this introduction

1676
01:12:35,660 --> 01:12:31,830
of the pollutant so that the pollutant

1677
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:35,670
is being degraded and broken down so

1678
01:12:42,230 --> 01:12:39,090
it's mostly broken down within a mile

1679
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:42,240
and then the water starts to develop

1680
01:12:47,180 --> 01:12:45,210
vortices around two miles algae start to

1681
01:12:49,730 --> 01:12:47,190
develop and aquatic animals are able

1682
01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:49,740
again to inhabit the stream and then by

1683
01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:51,000
five miles

1684
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:53,490
it's basically back to where it was in

1685
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:55,410
terms of the ecosystem being restored

1686
01:12:59,120 --> 01:12:58,170
and not really seeing the effect of

1687
01:13:01,310 --> 01:12:59,130
those footings

1688
01:13:03,610 --> 01:13:01,320
now keep in mind this is just organic

1689
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,620
pollutants so domestic wastewater

1690
01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:05,520
Brewery water so you're talking about

1691
01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:08,160
yeast and food particles and stuff like

1692
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:10,230
nothing really that damaging they're

1693
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:12,090
toxic right when you start getting it

1694
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:14,610
stuff that's even more toxic like oil

1695
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:17,010
you know different chemicals then you're

1696
01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:18,330
talking about stuff where it might take

1697
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:19,980
a lot longer for it to become degraded

1698
01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:22,650
yeah I mean even the natural stuff is

1699
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:25,800
showing a huge influence that alone is

1700
01:13:31,970 --> 01:13:28,260
enough to be like hey why don't we stop

1701
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:31,980
that I mean you're damaging miles of the

1702
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:33,690
river it you don't think about it I

1703
01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:34,800
guess because you're like oh well it's

1704
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:36,660
relatively clean water we're injecting

1705
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:38,850
into it but not from the rivers

1706
01:13:44,150 --> 01:13:41,520
perspective well I mean we aren't

1707
01:13:45,980 --> 01:13:44,160
breathing it either right you can have

1708
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:45,990
it on your hands it's not toxic right

1709
01:13:50,690 --> 01:13:48,510
but try and breathe that water and you

1710
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:50,700
know how food and stuff like you'll get

1711
01:13:57,890 --> 01:13:54,510
really sick and we should also probably

1712
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,900
break down dr. emoto's stuff a little

1713
01:14:00,860 --> 01:13:59,520
bit because I'm sure people have heard

1714
01:14:02,420 --> 01:14:00,870
of it or once it's explained a little

1715
01:14:04,340 --> 01:14:02,430
bit the big oh yeah I remember hearing

1716
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:04,350
about that but it's something that

1717
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:07,290
science is thoroughly dismissed I

1718
01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:08,910
wouldn't even say debunked because of

1719
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:11,580
course we don't think that but I did

1720
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:14,480
consider this fairly hokey like I can't

1721
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:17,730
ration in my mind why this would work or

1722
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:19,770
at least I had a hard time doing that up

1723
01:14:25,190 --> 01:14:21,690
until we started talking about this show

1724
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:25,200
but talk about dr. Emoto and what he did

1725
01:14:30,230 --> 01:14:28,650
exactly sure yeah I'm sure most of your

1726
01:14:31,940 --> 01:14:30,240
listeners are familiar with this most

1727
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:31,950
people have heard of it and just kind of

1728
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:35,820
whatever but he would freeze water and

1729
01:14:39,230 --> 01:14:37,590
while subjects would pray say or

1730
01:14:41,570 --> 01:14:39,240
otherwise provide intent for the water

1731
01:14:44,510 --> 01:14:41,580
sample and then he'd also play music

1732
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:44,520
samples as well and the crystalline

1733
01:14:47,630 --> 01:14:46,110
water structure the frozen ice would

1734
01:14:51,050 --> 01:14:47,640
then show different shapes or patterns

1735
01:14:53,449 --> 01:14:51,060
based on the words or the structure of

1736
01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:53,459
the music and words that vote

1737
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:56,369
empathy love beauty would produce highly

1738
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:58,650
ordinary constructors as well as

1739
01:15:03,259 --> 01:15:01,679
classical music and words that invoke

1740
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:03,269
digression pain or fear would produce

1741
01:15:06,529 --> 01:15:05,010
ice it was seemingly disrupted in

1742
01:15:09,169 --> 01:15:06,539
formless and its crystalline structure

1743
01:15:13,489 --> 01:15:09,179
as wood heavy metal and things like that

1744
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:13,499
and so there is one thing I found that

1745
01:15:19,969 --> 01:15:16,650
actually supports that with scientific

1746
01:15:22,549 --> 01:15:19,979
theory in 2012 researchers at Stony

1747
01:15:24,739 --> 01:15:22,559
Brook University concluded that the

1748
01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:24,749
volume of water of ice depends on the

1749
01:15:30,259 --> 01:15:27,300
quantum zero point motion of the H and O

1750
01:15:32,029 --> 01:15:30,269
atoms in an opposite way from normal

1751
01:15:34,069 --> 01:15:32,039
materials crystals shrink as they are

1752
01:15:36,140 --> 01:15:34,079
cold but because of zero-point motions

1753
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,150
drinking stops before reaching

1754
01:15:41,509 --> 01:15:38,400
temperatures of absolute zero and so

1755
01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:41,519
they called this quantum ice effect and

1756
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:43,800
so that there are quantum effects that

1757
01:15:49,009 --> 01:15:45,209
are going on during this freezing

1758
01:15:51,919 --> 01:15:49,019
process so the potential for those

1759
01:15:52,939 --> 01:15:51,929
quantum effects to help order ice

1760
01:15:54,949 --> 01:15:52,949
crystals

1761
01:15:57,739 --> 01:15:54,959
you know there's starting to be some

1762
01:15:59,390 --> 01:15:57,749
theory that could support that yeah you

1763
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,400
know I mean his work was done I believe

1764
01:16:03,169 --> 01:16:01,199
in the late 90s or something like that

1765
01:16:06,859 --> 01:16:03,179
but just now we're starting to catch up

1766
01:16:09,790 --> 01:16:06,869
with what might be the causes that's so

1767
01:16:15,109 --> 01:16:09,800
crazy to think that you can take ice and

1768
01:16:18,679 --> 01:16:15,119
you can say I love you or [\h__\h] your

1769
01:16:20,989 --> 01:16:18,689
mother and the structure of the ice

1770
01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:20,999
changes I guess to a degree I mean

1771
01:16:26,929 --> 01:16:23,249
that's basically what he's getting at is

1772
01:16:29,299 --> 01:16:26,939
intent negative or positive emotion

1773
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:29,309
actually has an effect on water

1774
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:32,820
structure and that to me always just was

1775
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:35,369
like nope I can't go down that road that

1776
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:36,900
just doesn't make any [\h__\h] sense

1777
01:16:41,299 --> 01:16:39,329
but you introduced to me the other day

1778
01:16:43,219 --> 01:16:41,309
you were talking about those early

1779
01:16:46,489 --> 01:16:43,229
alchemists and how they used to talk

1780
01:16:48,799 --> 01:16:46,499
about the mind element to transmutation

1781
01:16:50,660 --> 01:16:48,809
that there was some type of mechanism

1782
01:16:52,969 --> 01:16:50,670
there there was some kind of mental

1783
01:16:55,250 --> 01:16:52,979
process that had an effect on what they

1784
01:16:57,739 --> 01:16:55,260
were doing and you could say that before

1785
01:16:59,839 --> 01:16:57,749
they had the technological ability the

1786
01:17:02,149 --> 01:16:59,849
mechanical ability to do some of these

1787
01:17:04,910 --> 01:17:02,159
things there was a mind effect that

1788
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:04,920
people have a strong mind could maybe be

1789
01:17:07,250 --> 01:17:06,840
better alchemists I just think that it

1790
01:17:08,689 --> 01:17:07,260
makes

1791
01:17:11,839 --> 01:17:08,699
little more sense now it's kind of

1792
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:11,849
mind-blowing man yeah well they called

1793
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:16,710
the mind the inner fire and so when you

1794
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:19,110
read a lot of I mean all the stuffs

1795
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:21,170
encoded and it's really hard to decipher

1796
01:17:25,250 --> 01:17:23,760
but that was one of the things that

1797
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:25,260
stuck out to me was they keep talking

1798
01:17:31,879 --> 01:17:28,369
about this inner fire and to me that

1799
01:17:36,060 --> 01:17:31,889
speaks to you know this quality of the

1800
01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:36,070
mind where you can

1801
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:40,840
be a projected consciousness outside of

1802
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:43,210
yourself and go different places like

1803
01:17:46,230 --> 01:17:44,800
remote viewing and things like that

1804
01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:46,240
they've actually done experiments where

1805
01:17:50,730 --> 01:17:49,390
they've had photomultiplier tubes at the

1806
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:50,740
target of something that was being

1807
01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:53,890
remote viewed and they found that they

1808
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:57,310
could detect light so when somebody was

1809
01:18:06,240 --> 01:17:59,650
remote viewing something they could

1810
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:06,250
detect light with a sensor it was very

1811
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:09,490
very small but that showed that there

1812
01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:12,490
was something going on there and so I

1813
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:14,860
think that our consciousness by

1814
01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:17,260
injecting in 10 especially once you

1815
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:19,270
start to get into kind of altered states

1816
01:18:23,550 --> 01:18:21,670
of consciousness you'd be able to open

1817
01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:23,560
up this pathway between the conscious

1818
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:25,750
and the unconscious a bit more then

1819
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:30,730
you're able to take processes that would

1820
01:18:37,530 --> 01:18:34,720
normally be impossible and you start to

1821
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:37,540
skew the way that these lower level

1822
01:18:42,810 --> 01:18:39,490
interactions happen on an aggregate

1823
01:18:44,430 --> 01:18:42,820
scale and you're able to make reactions

1824
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:44,440
occur that would normally be impossible

1825
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:49,060
and so you know it's something that I

1826
01:18:55,260 --> 01:18:52,540
think is really at the root of our

1827
01:18:58,770 --> 01:18:55,270
reality to a degree but it also gets

1828
01:19:00,300 --> 01:18:58,780
into alchemy and magic and all this

1829
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:00,310
other stuff that we like to talk about

1830
01:19:06,540 --> 01:19:03,310
yeah I mean this is just so exciting for

1831
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:06,550
me because a lot of the stuff that gets

1832
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:08,320
talked about on the show I've been into

1833
01:19:13,470 --> 01:19:11,170
for maybe a decade or more and this is

1834
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:13,480
just pretty fresh and there's so many

1835
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:16,030
people who try to talk about alchemy as

1836
01:19:21,150 --> 01:19:18,970
oh well it's all just symbolic language

1837
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:21,160
and it's about strengthening your mind

1838
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:22,810
yeah strengthening your mind so you can

1839
01:19:26,610 --> 01:19:25,210
do some real [\h__\h] strengthen in your

1840
01:19:29,190 --> 01:19:26,620
mind so you can have some scientific

1841
01:19:31,050 --> 01:19:29,200
effects and it's almost like that's the

1842
01:19:33,570 --> 01:19:31,060
disinformation to say that there's no

1843
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:33,580
way there's no area where alchemy

1844
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:36,550
touches real science is like get out of

1845
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:37,870
here

1846
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:40,870
well I think a lot of people especially

1847
01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:45,970
in the new-age world they like to think

1848
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:48,310
about everything being in your head to a

1849
01:19:53,700 --> 01:19:50,490
large degree and you know all our

1850
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,710
perspective and you know there's a lot

1851
01:19:57,420 --> 01:19:56,080
of let's say manipulation behind the

1852
01:20:00,090 --> 01:19:57,430
scenes when it comes to the new-age

1853
01:20:02,010 --> 01:20:00,100
perspective on the whole in terms of

1854
01:20:03,540 --> 01:20:02,020
different Institute's that have been set

1855
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:03,550
up who are being funded by the

1856
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:05,770
Rockefellers or this or that you know

1857
01:20:15,890 --> 01:20:09,670
stuff like that so so I think there is

1858
01:20:19,020 --> 01:20:15,900
this tendency to keep it to the

1859
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:19,030
self-help realm you know because that a

1860
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:20,560
lot of that stuff is just kind of like

1861
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,460
the self-help realm and oh if I just

1862
01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:25,360
envisioned that my life will be better

1863
01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:27,700
it will be better and kind of keeping it

1864
01:20:33,780 --> 01:20:30,940
in this fantasy mentality right keep it

1865
01:20:35,670 --> 01:20:33,790
in areas where the results cause people

1866
01:20:38,220 --> 01:20:35,680
to actually dismiss the phenomenon

1867
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:38,230
itself and the entire body of work yeah

1868
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:40,870
but they know about this and the whole

1869
01:20:51,390 --> 01:20:44,730
mindset of it is well my psychology

1870
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:51,400
affects reality but it's just I there's

1871
01:20:55,650 --> 01:20:53,350
there's pieces missing from the puzzle

1872
01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:55,660
there let me just make it seem arbitrary

1873
01:21:00,180 --> 01:20:58,480
yet they make it seem either way it

1874
01:21:02,940 --> 01:21:00,190
doesn't matter you know it's all good

1875
01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:02,950
and they're all kind of like well if I

1876
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:06,310
just do my thing I can ignore the rest

1877
01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:10,390
of reality and just kind of you know but

1878
01:21:16,110 --> 01:21:13,540
really yeah I don't want to be too much

1879
01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:16,120
up on the New Agers there are some

1880
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:18,280
interesting things that they know about

1881
01:21:22,290 --> 01:21:20,530
and obviously they aren't dismissing a

1882
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:22,300
lot of stuff like the scientists but

1883
01:21:27,390 --> 01:21:24,970
let's just say I think there's fools in

1884
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:27,400
their philosophy right maybe there are

1885
01:21:30,090 --> 01:21:28,960
interpretations a little off because

1886
01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:30,100
they don't have the scientific

1887
01:21:35,070 --> 01:21:33,550
background or the know-how to really put

1888
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,080
the pieces together but they don't have

1889
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:37,120
a bad intention a lot of them have

1890
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:39,400
intuitive understanding but then I think

1891
01:21:44,340 --> 01:21:41,890
there's also these levers of control

1892
01:21:47,730 --> 01:21:44,350
that guide them into certain ways of

1893
01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:47,740
thinking as well yeah absolutely

1894
01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:50,350
and so I wanted to ask you before we get

1895
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:51,220
into the

1896
01:21:57,150 --> 01:21:54,910
of the pool just to put a kind of a

1897
01:21:59,250 --> 01:21:57,160
capstone on this what will probably be

1898
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,260
up to this point just what turns out to

1899
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:01,360
be the free show just to make it all

1900
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:04,450
come full circle but have you taken any

1901
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:06,100
of this research and done any

1902
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:08,650
experiments yourself either by building

1903
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:11,050
a Victor s style device or by giving

1904
01:22:17,190 --> 01:22:13,480
yourself four texts water to see how you

1905
01:22:19,170 --> 01:22:17,200
feel anything like that well I've done a

1906
01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:19,180
little I mean in terms of lore texting

1907
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:21,460
on water if you want to do it like the

1908
01:22:25,890 --> 01:22:24,610
Rudolf Steiner method of or texting when

1909
01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:25,900
it's kind of like a nano or one-way a

1910
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:28,060
now or the other way it's just a lot of

1911
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:33,370
work I have to make some equipment to do

1912
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:34,990
that sort of stuff I do want to get into

1913
01:22:41,550 --> 01:22:38,710
that more basically for now I'm just

1914
01:22:44,630 --> 01:22:41,560
using some I think it's called the

1915
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:44,640
Sperling ring there was this guy he

1916
01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:47,530
developed these copper rings which are

1917
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:49,870
supposed to entrain the ether and

1918
01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:51,820
they're in a double helix pattern that

1919
01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:54,520
wraps around on each other at fractions

1920
01:22:59,100 --> 01:22:56,860
of a cubit and things like that

1921
01:23:01,800 --> 01:22:59,110
so I basically use that and I have a

1922
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:01,810
perky system and then I put it into a

1923
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:04,630
copper egg-shaped vessel but not really

1924
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:06,310
much beyond that I want to make some

1925
01:23:10,770 --> 01:23:08,290
orgonite water holders that are

1926
01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:10,780
egg-shaped to help structure eyes it and

1927
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:13,000
then I also want to add some motion to

1928
01:23:18,810 --> 01:23:15,790
that some sort of motion structure Iser

1929
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:18,820
or flow structure eyes or something so

1930
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:21,520
this is like medicinal water in effect

1931
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:25,270
right yeah well you know to really get

1932
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:27,550
it up to that level you need to start

1933
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:30,070
looking into adding minerals and things

1934
01:23:33,870 --> 01:23:31,750
like that which is what you know

1935
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:33,880
basically when schauberger had his

1936
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:36,370
system he had he had it where you added

1937
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,290
like a little packet of minerals and

1938
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:40,480
then it would flow all around it had

1939
01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:42,940
carbonic acid and stuff added to it to

1940
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:44,950
help break down them the minerals and

1941
01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:46,930
stuff so he he went way above what I'm

1942
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:49,660
thinking of doing anytime soon but you

1943
01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:51,310
know that would be wonderful but you

1944
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:52,780
know all this stuff takes a lot of work

1945
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:55,510
yeah takes a lot of work I mean it's not

1946
01:23:59,610 --> 01:23:58,090
hard it's really it's very simple stuff

1947
01:24:02,040 --> 01:23:59,620
but none of this stuff is sitting on the

1948
01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:02,050
shelf but I mean just just even finding

1949
01:24:05,220 --> 01:24:03,700
a vessel that's eggs shaped of a decent

1950
01:24:08,180 --> 01:24:05,230
size is hard enough

1951
01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:08,190
you know yeah just so sad because

1952
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:10,750
obviously we know the water that's

1953
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,650
pumped into our houses is polluted in

1954
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,000
some areas worse than others of course

1955
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:19,360
but then even the water we get generally

1956
01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:21,970
is in these plastic bottles and there's

1957
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:23,560
been more than enough research to

1958
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:26,320
suggest there's trace amounts of plastic

1959
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:28,000
in those water bottles is seeping into

1960
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:30,820
the water so like the building block of

1961
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:33,790
life the only sources we have are all

1962
01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:36,850
just dead and polluted yeah well then

1963
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:45,880
there's fluoride of course yeah yeah

1964
01:24:51,870 --> 01:24:49,840
so if there's any hope for people living

1965
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:51,880
happy healthy lives is something that's

1966
01:24:56,970 --> 01:24:54,250
gonna have to come under scrutiny mm-hmm

1967
01:25:00,000 --> 01:24:56,980
it's going to have to and you know when

1968
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:00,010
it comes to the work of job pollock this

1969
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:01,900
easy zone that's just the first start of

1970
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:05,470
his stuff he goes into how it deals with

1971
01:25:10,130 --> 01:25:08,170
protein folding cellular function

1972
01:25:12,740 --> 01:25:10,140
muscular contraction so the division

1973
01:25:15,060 --> 01:25:12,750
microtubule depolymerization

1974
01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:15,070
mitochondria development chromosomal

1975
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:17,500
development in the cell so water

1976
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:20,800
structure plays a huge huge impact in

1977
01:25:25,860 --> 01:25:23,290
every single stage of cellular

1978
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:25,870
development yeah does a rabbit hole

1979
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:29,110
there yeah think of it as like almost

1980
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:32,050
the electrical muscle of the cell this

1981
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:34,330
pulsing and you start to get into kind

1982
01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:36,910
of organ and one thing I should mention

1983
01:25:41,610 --> 01:25:39,580
is I misspoke in the first series when I

1984
01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:41,620
was talking about Wilhelm Reich and his

1985
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:44,980
creating of these little bye ons the by

1986
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:47,170
Hans weren't really bacteria they were

1987
01:25:52,410 --> 01:25:48,850
just kind of like these vesicles these

1988
01:25:54,979 --> 01:25:52,420
little spheres of material that was

1989
01:25:58,830 --> 01:25:54,989
pulsing and it had gave off this light

1990
01:26:00,570 --> 01:25:58,840
and that also seems to be supported by

1991
01:26:04,979 --> 01:26:00,580
pollock as well because he talks about

1992
01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:04,989
the first stages of a cell being made up

1993
01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:06,700
of these different particles that are

1994
01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:08,950
being held together by charge and then

1995
01:26:13,229 --> 01:26:10,630
they start to start to clump together

1996
01:26:15,209 --> 01:26:13,239
which is exactly what Wilhelm Reich was

1997
01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:15,219
seeing in the formation these ions then

1998
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:17,230
you get this conglomeration of matter

1999
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:18,610
that's forming a Chou

2000
01:26:22,380 --> 01:26:21,070
and it starts to glow and what Reich

2001
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:22,390
said was it was pulsing with the

2002
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:24,730
sorbonne energy and that was the

2003
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:27,190
beginning building blocks as a cell and

2004
01:26:30,990 --> 01:26:29,650
life and things like that and so if you

2005
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:31,000
think about that and you couple it with

2006
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:33,550
what we've talked about in terms of you

2007
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:36,910
know cavitation and you know DNA and

2008
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:37,930
stuff like that

2009
01:26:43,230 --> 01:26:40,480
then you're also getting into some of

2010
01:26:46,290 --> 01:26:43,240
the theories of Mark LeClair because he

2011
01:26:48,690 --> 01:26:46,300
found that when he was doing his

2012
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:48,700
experiments that these were the perfect

2013
01:26:53,070 --> 01:26:50,650
conditions and these cavitating bubbles

2014
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:53,080
to create all sorts of different

2015
01:26:59,070 --> 01:26:56,320
materials and he theorized that the

2016
01:27:01,520 --> 01:26:59,080
impact from all of these meteors and

2017
01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:01,530
stuff like that on the primordial earth

2018
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:04,870
made these double helix structures you

2019
01:27:10,140 --> 01:27:06,610
know kind of creating elements all over

2020
01:27:12,270 --> 01:27:10,150
the place it's the you know if you've

2021
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:12,280
got these these little balls floating

2022
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:14,110
around and you got these double helix

2023
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:16,330
injectors that are shooting different

2024
01:27:20,940 --> 01:27:18,610
molecules into it he's saying that's

2025
01:27:25,950 --> 01:27:20,950
kind of like the crucible of life right

2026
01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:25,960
there amazing man amazing you're a great

2027
01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:27,910
synthesizer of all these little

2028
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:30,790
different compartmentalized areas of

2029
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:32,710
research for sure man

2030
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:35,380
we definitely have put together a hell

2031
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:38,560
of an episode here it's pretty amazing

2032
01:27:42,510 --> 01:27:40,960
that at least in the the earlier portion

2033
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:42,520
the science we were talking about the

2034
01:27:47,850 --> 01:27:45,040
alchemical stuff seems to be so in tune

2035
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:47,860
with nature and so fundamental but it's

2036
01:27:52,830 --> 01:27:49,570
crazy they've been able to keep it out

2037
01:27:55,230 --> 01:27:52,840
of the mainstream for so long and is

2038
01:27:59,100 --> 01:27:55,240
there anything else really we should do

2039
01:28:01,890 --> 01:27:59,110
to wrap this thing up well since we

2040
01:28:03,810 --> 01:28:01,900
haven't broached the subject at all I

2041
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:03,820
would like to talk just very briefly

2042
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:06,670
about dowsing because it's so really it

2043
01:28:13,050 --> 01:28:11,050
yeah that's a weird art yeah so dowsing

2044
01:28:15,450 --> 01:28:13,060
were the most popular uses for dowsing

2045
01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:15,460
is water witching you know finding water

2046
01:28:21,690 --> 01:28:19,180
and what's using a rod or a pendulum or

2047
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:21,700
something like that something with a

2048
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:25,120
rhythmic movement to it or something

2049
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:28,810
that can twist in order to be able to do

2050
01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:32,410
some sort of prediction or so

2051
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:34,540
sort of determination as to where water

2052
01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:37,450
might be or you know other things as

2053
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:38,980
well but we'll just focus on water for

2054
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:42,400
now when it comes to dowsing we've been

2055
01:28:47,070 --> 01:28:45,970
talking about these quantum effects and

2056
01:28:49,790 --> 01:28:47,080
things like that

2057
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:49,800
they're really dealing with these

2058
01:28:58,050 --> 01:28:55,360
torsion Bourgogne energy streams and all

2059
01:29:00,890 --> 01:28:58,060
this is dealing with this rotational

2060
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:00,900
wave and so when you're dealing with

2061
01:29:08,370 --> 01:29:04,210
dowsing one of the big things is that

2062
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:08,380
there is evidence that there's something

2063
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:11,760
going on outside of just the person

2064
01:29:16,770 --> 01:29:13,930
manipulating things with their hands

2065
01:29:21,980 --> 01:29:16,780
there is an outside force that seems to

2066
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:21,990
be developed so just a quick little

2067
01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:24,610
speaking to that there's this book

2068
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:27,640
called aqua video locating underground

2069
01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:30,130
water by Bernal Cameron and that's

2070
01:29:36,030 --> 01:29:32,230
specifically dealing with his aura meter

2071
01:29:38,930 --> 01:29:36,040
dowsing rod it's a Doodlebug Doodlebug

2072
01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:38,940
is basically a kind of a cross between a

2073
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:41,620
dowsing rod and pendulum where something

2074
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:46,570
bounces around as it can spin and and

2075
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:50,560
find things so measuring the deflection

2076
01:29:55,230 --> 01:29:53,290
of a dowsing rod on May 1st 1963

2077
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:55,240
exhaustive scientific tests prove

2078
01:29:59,520 --> 01:29:56,890
conclusively that a powerful force

2079
01:30:01,230 --> 01:29:59,530
outside the human body actually pulls

2080
01:30:03,390 --> 01:30:01,240
the dowsing instrument in the presence

2081
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:03,400
of underground water the test was

2082
01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:05,290
conducted by qualified scientists at the

2083
01:30:09,870 --> 01:30:06,760
suggestion of the Institute of radio

2084
01:30:12,900 --> 01:30:09,880
engineers for whom Bren Cameron had

2085
01:30:14,430 --> 01:30:12,910
given a lecture demonstration at the IRC

2086
01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:14,440
hall in Los Angeles

2087
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:16,780
Alvin Kaufman for the litany company of

2088
01:30:21,180 --> 01:30:19,090
engineers and assistant arrived at Mr

2089
01:30:23,130 --> 01:30:21,190
Cameron's else in our home with a

2090
01:30:25,290 --> 01:30:23,140
sensitive electronic recording machine

2091
01:30:26,490 --> 01:30:25,300
designed to record by means of two

2092
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:26,500
moving styluses

2093
01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:30,550
on a 4 and 1/2 inch paper tape this

2094
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:32,320
subject is covered in detail by James

2095
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:35,110
Crenshaw and February 1965 article and

2096
01:30:39,810 --> 01:30:37,810
fate magazine the specifically built

2097
01:30:42,450 --> 01:30:39,820
device was a 12-inch aluminum arm with a

2098
01:30:44,610 --> 01:30:42,460
vise at the top a rheostat or

2099
01:30:46,220 --> 01:30:44,620
potentiometer ground mounted at the

2100
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:46,230
bottom carried a heavy pen

2101
01:30:50,810 --> 01:30:48,510
to register the slightest deviation from

2102
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:50,820
vertical or from whatever positioned the

2103
01:30:55,130 --> 01:30:53,250
arm was held with the dials adjusted for

2104
01:30:58,250 --> 01:30:55,140
zero reading the torsion beam bending

2105
01:31:00,530 --> 01:30:58,260
bar to styloid trace the record of the

2106
01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:00,540
action of the switch as well as the the

2107
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:02,940
attitude of the bar and switch the

2108
01:31:06,890 --> 01:31:04,650
machine was set up to have a small cold

2109
01:31:09,290 --> 01:31:06,900
water stream camera to douse beneath his

2110
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:09,300
driveway wires ran to the water clean up

2111
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:11,250
hearing the switch camera' and cut from

2112
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:13,770
a nearby fruitless mulberry tree the

2113
01:31:17,660 --> 01:31:15,450
first switch locate for normal hand use

2114
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:17,670
and Dez and kept twisting off the arm of

2115
01:31:22,430 --> 01:31:20,610
the twig and clamped in the vise the

2116
01:31:26,090 --> 01:31:22,440
opposite end of the switch was carried

2117
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:26,100
on karyn's open up turned left palm the

2118
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:29,010
torque on the first switch was not great

2119
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:31,050
enough with only one end to support the

2120
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:32,850
crutch the cameron cut a much stronger

2121
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:35,850
switch about 18 inches long with a 1/4

2122
01:31:41,450 --> 01:31:38,130
inch diameter at the clamp this proved

2123
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:41,460
to be satisfactory so in this experiment

2124
01:31:47,540 --> 01:31:44,489
is essentially got the standard twitch

2125
01:31:49,790 --> 01:31:47,550
you would cut off of them tree in this

2126
01:31:50,750 --> 01:31:49,800
case a mulberry tree you know that

2127
01:31:54,020 --> 01:31:50,760
forked branch

2128
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:54,030
we're clamping it in one side just to an

2129
01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:55,850
angle meter the potentiometer that

2130
01:32:00,710 --> 01:31:58,440
changes resistance as the angle changed

2131
01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:00,720
and then he's putting the other side on

2132
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:02,960
his open palm

2133
01:32:06,910 --> 01:32:05,690
and it's twisting and they're measuring

2134
01:32:09,850 --> 01:32:06,920
the amount of twisting and the twisting

2135
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:09,860
so strong that when they put a smaller

2136
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:14,810
branch in it twisted the branch off so

2137
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:17,510
what's doing that it's not his hand is

2138
01:32:21,340 --> 01:32:19,610
hands open it's not the vise the vise

2139
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:21,350
doesn't generate any twisting it just

2140
01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:24,080
holds it so that branch is moving on its

2141
01:32:28,780 --> 01:32:26,390
own there's this rotational energy

2142
01:32:30,729 --> 01:32:28,790
that's going into this operation that's

2143
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:30,739
not being performed by the musculature

2144
01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:33,650
of the operator Wow it's being done by

2145
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:36,760
their consciousness I believe Wow

2146
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:39,050
so we're getting back into that

2147
01:32:44,170 --> 01:32:42,290
consciousness aspect again huh I mean

2148
01:32:46,780 --> 01:32:44,180
dowsing has always seemed weird to me

2149
01:32:50,170 --> 01:32:46,790
but I mean it's been used for so long it

2150
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:50,180
clearly works well that's the thing is

2151
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:51,290
you know there's a lot of this stuff

2152
01:32:54,820 --> 01:32:53,690
that it gets dismissed as superstition

2153
01:32:57,970 --> 01:32:54,830
and this and that

2154
01:33:00,130 --> 01:32:57,980
but when you actually do try and come at

2155
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:00,140
it with a scientific mind that isn't

2156
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:02,210
prejudiced can you actually look at the

2157
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:06,170
evidence then everything opens up you're

2158
01:33:11,290 --> 01:33:08,330
like wait there's an actual force here

2159
01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:11,300
what's causing that wait there's more

2160
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:14,480
there's more yeah and you got to realize

2161
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:18,330
that the ancient people weren't stupid

2162
01:33:23,060 --> 01:33:20,490
they didn't have all these complex

2163
01:33:24,830 --> 01:33:23,070
systems but maybe it's because they

2164
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:24,840
didn't need all these complex systems

2165
01:33:29,210 --> 01:33:27,210
that we have today right you know we

2166
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:29,220
think that we're so smart because we're

2167
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,410
shooting radar into the ground and we're

2168
01:33:36,770 --> 01:33:33,840
able to pick up things but this is just

2169
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:36,780
somebody with a bit of something on a

2170
01:33:44,530 --> 01:33:39,930
string or a stick and they're able to

2171
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:44,540
find the same thing who's smarter

2172
01:33:49,970 --> 01:33:48,090
absolutely begs the question and so we

2173
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:49,980
also wanted to give a little preview of

2174
01:33:54,770 --> 01:33:52,890
future shows before we wrap this up in

2175
01:33:56,150 --> 01:33:54,780
fact you wanted to take a break from

2176
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,160
this series and then a couple months

2177
01:34:00,800 --> 01:33:58,080
down the line to an episode that focuses

2178
01:34:02,900 --> 01:34:00,810
on fascism especially in light of recent

2179
01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:02,910
events but what would you say to get

2180
01:34:09,770 --> 01:34:05,400
people primed up for what we got coming

2181
01:34:12,380 --> 01:34:09,780
there well we've been talking about the

2182
01:34:15,770 --> 01:34:12,390
Germans and things like that and a lot

2183
01:34:17,660 --> 01:34:15,780
of these you know elemental stories and

2184
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:17,670
that's because there's definitely an

2185
01:34:23,780 --> 01:34:21,330
aspect to you know involvement of

2186
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:23,790
Germans and they definitely I mean

2187
01:34:28,910 --> 01:34:27,060
obviously they have they have some some

2188
01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:28,920
impact under the subject of fascism as

2189
01:34:35,210 --> 01:34:31,760
well but that's not a coincidence

2190
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:35,220
there's this undercurrent in United

2191
01:34:41,450 --> 01:34:37,890
States history and politics which is

2192
01:34:43,970 --> 01:34:41,460
hardly ever discussed and it's this kind

2193
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:43,980
of fascist angle and we'll get into that

2194
01:34:49,730 --> 01:34:46,770
more when we talk about things like the

2195
01:34:52,510 --> 01:34:49,740
attempted coup of 1933 and smelly Butler

2196
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:52,520
and stuff like that I'm gonna definitely

2197
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:55,410
send you some books one of them would be

2198
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:00,480
the Nazi Hydra that thing is a tonne

2199
01:35:08,090 --> 01:35:03,330
it's just almost like reading a

2200
01:35:09,770 --> 01:35:08,100
reference it's so thickly packed let me

2201
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:09,780
throw something in here because I was

2202
01:35:13,550 --> 01:35:11,760
preparing for another show I was going

2203
01:35:15,050 --> 01:35:13,560
to be doing with someone that will not

2204
01:35:18,170 --> 01:35:15,060
be happening because they're a little

2205
01:35:20,060 --> 01:35:18,180
bit too paranoid about the culture right

2206
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:20,070
now and how polarized everyone is

2207
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:22,710
politically and they don't want some

2208
01:35:26,230 --> 01:35:24,330
things to be misconstrued but we were

2209
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:26,240
going to do a show that talked about

2210
01:35:30,830 --> 01:35:29,130
some of the weird aspects of Trump

2211
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:30,840
history and it all spawns from the idea

2212
01:35:33,870 --> 01:35:32,320
of that book Barron

2213
01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:33,880
Trump and his journey to the inner world

2214
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:36,190
it's kind of a 4chan conspiracy right

2215
01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:39,280
now but there is a real book written in

2216
01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:42,280
the days of Tesla in New York when they

2217
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:44,830
both were in that area and it's a book

2218
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:47,500
written about little Baron Trump Baron

2219
01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:50,560
as a as a moniker not as a first name

2220
01:35:52,890 --> 01:35:51,460
necessarily

2221
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:52,900
yeah but phonetically I mean

2222
01:35:57,060 --> 01:35:55,090
synchronistically very similar yeah

2223
01:36:00,690 --> 01:35:57,070
little Baron Trump in his journey to the

2224
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:00,700
Inner Earth so what's weird about this

2225
01:36:04,650 --> 01:36:02,410
you you would think this would just be a

2226
01:36:06,150 --> 01:36:04,660
troll right you would think but as you

2227
01:36:10,730 --> 01:36:06,160
dig deeper you find some interesting

2228
01:36:15,150 --> 01:36:10,740
thin so Donald Trump has an uncle named

2229
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:15,160
John G Trump and apparently you can find

2230
01:36:21,540 --> 01:36:18,970
a lot of clips of Donald sourcing John G

2231
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:21,550
Trump talking about how smart he was he

2232
01:36:25,890 --> 01:36:23,710
there's a quote where Donald says my

2233
01:36:28,620 --> 01:36:25,900
Uncle John told me about nuclear before

2234
01:36:30,900 --> 01:36:28,630
nuclear was nuclear and just all this

2235
01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:30,910
weird stuff but I remember that yeah

2236
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:33,550
yeah so interesting but and then he says

2237
01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:35,290
no stupid thing you can't about nuclear

2238
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:38,830
energy but you know well his Uncle John

2239
01:36:43,230 --> 01:36:41,830
was heavy at MIT like he went there for

2240
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:43,240
decades he worked he was an MIT

2241
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:46,210
scientist and it's not long in the deep

2242
01:36:49,230 --> 01:36:47,680
state when you're talking about secret

2243
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:49,240
technology and this kind of stuff before

2244
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:52,150
you get to MIT and I actually went on

2245
01:36:58,920 --> 01:36:54,810
YouTube and found a black and white

2246
01:37:01,710 --> 01:36:58,930
archival video where somebody in

2247
01:37:05,370 --> 01:37:01,720
radionics is actually interviewing him

2248
01:37:07,770 --> 01:37:05,380
and from his own mouth man he says some

2249
01:37:10,290 --> 01:37:07,780
interesting stuff he says that he used

2250
01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:10,300
to work at Bell Labs when they changed

2251
01:37:16,110 --> 01:37:13,900
the name from Western something to Bell

2252
01:37:19,110 --> 01:37:16,120
Labs like he was there at the time so

2253
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:19,120
that's an interesting footnote also he

2254
01:37:24,900 --> 01:37:21,610
talks about what time when he was

2255
01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:24,910
working on his thesis and he he hit a

2256
01:37:32,130 --> 01:37:27,880
roadblock so he went to talk to Vannevar

2257
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:32,140
Bush personally oh man so he went to

2258
01:37:36,330 --> 01:37:33,970
talk to van der Rohe person I mean

2259
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:36,340
that's you're talking about the heart of

2260
01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:39,280
the I know man and this is trucks uncle

2261
01:37:44,490 --> 01:37:42,940
first on that he knows well and so I

2262
01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:44,500
haven't even gotten to the the most

2263
01:37:49,770 --> 01:37:46,300
crazy thing but anyway so he gets to be

2264
01:37:51,870 --> 01:37:49,780
her bush and Vannevar Bush's advice to

2265
01:37:54,060 --> 01:37:51,880
him after hearing what he's working on

2266
01:37:56,459 --> 01:37:54,070
on this thesis is oh you need to go talk

2267
01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:56,469
to this other guy he's got some wild

2268
01:38:00,689 --> 01:37:58,570
ideas but I've checked them out and they

2269
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:00,699
seem credible and I can't remember the

2270
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:02,230
other guy it's not someone that I'd ever

2271
01:38:07,290 --> 01:38:04,329
heard about before but he's talking

2272
01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:07,300
about strange ideas that are a little

2273
01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:09,070
bit off the radar for the scientific

2274
01:38:13,830 --> 01:38:11,020
community he's getting advice from

2275
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:13,840
Vannevar Bush on where to go and here's

2276
01:38:19,919 --> 01:38:17,530
the icing on the cake when Tesla died

2277
01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:19,929
and they recovered some of his material

2278
01:38:26,129 --> 01:38:24,520
the FBI hired a scientist to review that

2279
01:38:30,209 --> 01:38:26,139
material and see if there was anything

2280
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:30,219
of use that scientist was John G Trump

2281
01:38:35,370 --> 01:38:32,770
he was the guy who took Tesla's stuff

2282
01:38:38,370 --> 01:38:35,380
and then he gave a public statement that

2283
01:38:40,319 --> 01:38:38,380
there was really nothing to see here

2284
01:38:43,140 --> 01:38:40,329
Oh here here's the quote I wrote it down

2285
01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:43,150
Tesla's thoughts and efforts during at

2286
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:45,670
least the past 15 years were primarily

2287
01:38:51,569 --> 01:38:48,400
of a speculative philosophical and

2288
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,579
somewhat promotional character but did

2289
01:38:55,890 --> 01:38:53,679
not include new sound workable

2290
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:55,900
principles or methods for realizing such

2291
01:39:01,020 --> 01:38:58,480
results so he basically says nothing to

2292
01:39:03,959 --> 01:39:01,030
see here this is the guy they hired I

2293
01:39:05,970 --> 01:39:03,969
mean that's if you talk to any engineer

2294
01:39:08,879 --> 01:39:05,980
today that's what they say right so

2295
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:08,889
there's the speculation that John G

2296
01:39:12,899 --> 01:39:10,960
Trump actually took Tesla's work and

2297
01:39:16,410 --> 01:39:12,909
kept it private and publicly said there

2298
01:39:18,660 --> 01:39:16,420
was nothing to see and that the Trump

2299
01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:18,670
family is Time Traveller's and that

2300
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:22,300
little Barron Trump is actually Donald

2301
01:39:26,780 --> 01:39:24,159
Trump in a small in a in the real

2302
01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:26,790
timeline and that he's gone back in time

2303
01:39:31,919 --> 01:39:29,230
gone to the Inner Earth had this book

2304
01:39:34,890 --> 01:39:31,929
written about him using Tesla's material

2305
01:39:36,330 --> 01:39:34,900
and obviously that is a crazy story but

2306
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:36,340
what's also interesting is the real

2307
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:39,040
movie Back to the Future Biff Tannen

2308
01:39:45,899 --> 01:39:43,050
time traveler is based on Donald Trump

2309
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:45,909
the writer of the books the writer of

2310
01:39:50,939 --> 01:39:48,639
the movie straight up says he was based

2311
01:39:53,790 --> 01:39:50,949
on Trump so this all ties together in a

2312
01:39:58,140 --> 01:39:53,800
really weird way well we have to go

2313
01:40:00,179 --> 01:39:58,150
there I second half that we have

2314
01:40:03,449 --> 01:40:00,189
reserved absolutely

2315
01:40:04,589 --> 01:40:03,459
we'll hit up beast men and gods but

2316
01:40:07,310 --> 01:40:04,599
we'll have to do both of them in the

2317
01:40:10,350 --> 01:40:07,320
specular portion absolutely man so

2318
01:40:11,790 --> 01:40:10,360
fascinating stuff I love it and of

2319
01:40:14,489 --> 01:40:11,800
course we're gonna continue the

2320
01:40:16,949 --> 01:40:14,499
alchemical series after we make that pit

2321
01:40:18,959 --> 01:40:16,959
stop at fascism but this has been a

2322
01:40:21,839 --> 01:40:18,969
great time and I'm really loving these

2323
01:40:24,270 --> 01:40:21,849
episodes well I'm glad to hear that I

2324
01:40:27,239 --> 01:40:24,280
hope everybody else is too I think so

2325
01:40:30,089 --> 01:40:27,249
for me you know doing all this research

2326
01:40:32,429 --> 01:40:30,099
I've had these ideas floating around in

2327
01:40:34,979 --> 01:40:32,439
my head but whenever I come back and

2328
01:40:36,779 --> 01:40:34,989
revisit it to talk with you just new

2329
01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:36,789
stuff just keep starts popping up just

2330
01:40:41,609 --> 01:40:38,409
left and right and I'm just like oh

2331
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:41,619
gotta add this in you can see it like

2332
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:43,630
the way I emailed stuff like oh well

2333
01:40:48,179 --> 01:40:46,090
here's this here's this it's a tangled

2334
01:40:50,219 --> 01:40:48,189
web man I appreciate I see them coming

2335
01:40:51,870 --> 01:40:50,229
in and I'm like oh [\h__\h] he's firing off

2336
01:40:54,179 --> 01:40:51,880
a lot of stuff at me that I'm gonna have

2337
01:40:56,399 --> 01:40:54,189
to get into but it's important it's

2338
01:40:59,790 --> 01:40:56,409
worth it it's worth it I think it's

2339
01:41:01,739 --> 01:40:59,800
worth it yeah I find with you and your

2340
01:41:04,109 --> 01:41:01,749
audience you know a group people who are

2341
01:41:07,140 --> 01:41:04,119
willing to listen to my crazy outlandish

2342
01:41:09,209 --> 01:41:07,150
theories and there's evidence here but

2343
01:41:11,759 --> 01:41:09,219
most people are never willing to look at

2344
01:41:14,219 --> 01:41:11,769
it most people just the cognitive

2345
01:41:15,409 --> 01:41:14,229
dissonance is so heavy that they don't

2346
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:15,419
want to go there

2347
01:41:19,739 --> 01:41:18,130
agreed you know a lot of them even if

2348
01:41:21,179 --> 01:41:19,749
they do ponder something for a moment

2349
01:41:24,109 --> 01:41:21,189
Billy what can I do about it and then

2350
01:41:26,609 --> 01:41:24,119
you just go go back to where they were

2351
01:41:29,069 --> 01:41:26,619
well I think you tie a lot of great

2352
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:29,079
stuff together and these make some of

2353
01:41:33,709 --> 01:41:31,570
the most unique podcasts out there and

2354
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:33,719
obviously I couldn't do it without you

2355
01:41:39,149 --> 01:41:36,760
well for a long time I've kind of looked

2356
01:41:41,489 --> 01:41:39,159
at the whole conspiracy world and you

2357
01:41:44,069 --> 01:41:41,499
know except for a few shining lights

2358
01:41:45,839 --> 01:41:44,079
like Graham Hancock I know I know some

2359
01:41:48,899 --> 01:41:45,849
people have their issues with him but I

2360
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:48,909
really like his work then there's Joseph

2361
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:52,719
Ferrell and a few others Erik Dollard

2362
01:41:57,899 --> 01:41:55,329
and some others they just really stand

2363
01:41:59,040 --> 01:41:57,909
out as sources of true information

2364
01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:59,050
there's a lot of other people out there

2365
01:42:03,929 --> 01:42:00,880
with they get their own way even if

2366
01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:03,939
they're trying really really hard to

2367
01:42:08,489 --> 01:42:06,729
find the truth something about their

2368
01:42:12,299 --> 01:42:08,499
personality gets in their own way where

2369
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:12,309
they just won't go that extra mile to

2370
01:42:17,500 --> 01:42:14,090
say am I being of

2371
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:17,510
am I trying to root out all the sources

2372
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:19,970
of myself that could get into this you

2373
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:22,490
know I kind of think that we need to

2374
01:42:29,380 --> 01:42:26,330
have a gonzo scientific community pop up

2375
01:42:31,780 --> 01:42:29,390
and like a gonzo reporting community

2376
01:42:35,050 --> 01:42:31,790
where because that's what the whole

2377
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:35,060
claim to fame with what's-his-face the

2378
01:42:40,150 --> 01:42:38,000
guy who wrote fear and loathing fahan

2379
01:42:42,190 --> 01:42:40,160
arrest Thompson under arrest Thompson

2380
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:42,200
yeah and gonzo journalist he said gonzo

2381
01:42:47,020 --> 01:42:45,410
journalism was about recognizing that I

2382
01:42:48,940 --> 01:42:47,030
am a part of the story

2383
01:42:50,290 --> 01:42:48,950
yeah just like scientists need to

2384
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:50,300
recognize you're a part of the

2385
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:53,930
experiment you affect the experiment if

2386
01:42:58,330 --> 01:42:56,810
you are steadfastly against ever

2387
01:43:01,360 --> 01:42:58,340
believing that there's a possibility

2388
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:01,370
that your mind could interact with this

2389
01:43:06,510 --> 01:43:03,530
then you won't see any evidence of it

2390
01:43:09,550 --> 01:43:06,520
and that in and of itself if you could

2391
01:43:11,410 --> 01:43:09,560
that's something that can happen mm-hmm

2392
01:43:12,730 --> 01:43:11,420
in this context but if you're thinking

2393
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:12,740
outside of the context you like well

2394
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:14,000
obviously that's not going to happen so

2395
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:16,490
you know it's just looking into a mirror

2396
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:18,560
thing you know yeah you've got to be

2397
01:43:22,420 --> 01:43:20,570
able to reflect on yourself and see how

2398
01:43:24,700 --> 01:43:22,430
much of myself am i injecting into this

2399
01:43:26,140 --> 01:43:24,710
am I really being objective or not right

2400
01:43:28,810 --> 01:43:26,150
you know and that's one of the big

2401
01:43:30,340 --> 01:43:28,820
things that just as in the scientific

2402
01:43:31,810 --> 01:43:30,350
community it also happens in the

2403
01:43:34,150 --> 01:43:31,820
reporting community the conspiracy

2404
01:43:36,730 --> 01:43:34,160
community people aren't able to get out

2405
01:43:38,410 --> 01:43:36,740
of their own way right that's something

2406
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:38,420
Gordon White's talked about a lot is

2407
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:40,370
data and interpretation you got to

2408
01:43:46,090 --> 01:43:43,760
separate the actual facts and data from

2409
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:46,100
the mouthpiece that's giving you the

2410
01:43:50,740 --> 01:43:48,110
information because they always put a

2411
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:50,750
spin on it like you said yeah and I mean

2412
01:43:55,420 --> 01:43:53,360
I try and not put a spin on it as much

2413
01:43:56,860 --> 01:43:55,430
as I can but I'm still person I got a

2414
01:43:59,500 --> 01:43:56,870
personality I would hope you know I'm

2415
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:59,510
not a robot so right yeah if you can

2416
01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:01,280
even like the people who try to be

2417
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:03,380
conscious of it obviously are doing way

2418
01:44:07,060 --> 01:44:05,090
more than the people who were oblivious

2419
01:44:08,740 --> 01:44:07,070
to it I mean when you're oblivious to it

2420
01:44:10,810 --> 01:44:08,750
it's just it's almost kind of

2421
01:44:12,430 --> 01:44:10,820
frustrating to see you know you want to

2422
01:44:14,290 --> 01:44:12,440
shake them and be like hey well what if

2423
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:14,300
it's this yeah you know I like what

2424
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:16,490
you're saying but what if it's that but

2425
01:44:20,620 --> 01:44:19,010
either way you know how it goes yeah but

2426
01:44:22,450 --> 01:44:20,630
definitely send me whatever information

2427
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:22,460
you have about that Donald Trump thing

2428
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:24,770
I'll take a look at it oh I will I'll

2429
01:44:28,770 --> 01:44:26,480
send you all my notes from the show that

2430
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:28,780
never was

2431
01:44:34,540 --> 01:44:31,610
but it'll be interesting it will be men

2432
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:34,550
it will be so yeah big thanks for

2433
01:44:36,910 --> 01:44:35,570
bringing all this stuff to the table

2434
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:36,920
anything else you want to promote in

2435
01:44:40,510 --> 01:44:38,570
terms of stuff people should follow up

2436
01:44:41,650 --> 01:44:40,520
on or dig deeper into to get a clearer

2437
01:44:45,850 --> 01:44:41,660
picture of these things we've been

2438
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:45,860
talking about well so remember my first

2439
01:44:52,570 --> 01:44:48,890
podcast I was promoting the Wilhelm

2440
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:52,580
Reich documentary film yes that it got

2441
01:44:56,650 --> 01:44:53,570
its full funding

2442
01:45:00,340 --> 01:44:56,660
hell yeah though it's coming through Rob

2443
01:45:02,470 --> 01:45:00,350
listeners I'm sure I call you well we

2444
01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:02,480
can hear at the higher side chats yeah

2445
01:45:06,580 --> 01:45:04,310
well you know they had to do some

2446
01:45:08,740 --> 01:45:06,590
subsequent funding and stuff like that

2447
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:08,750
but yeah they made it up well we're

2448
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:11,600
stoners so we're slow to get in and take

2449
01:45:17,020 --> 01:45:14,930
care of [\h__\h] but hats being made so I

2450
01:45:19,660 --> 01:45:17,030
know it's probably going to be like

2451
01:45:22,510 --> 01:45:19,670
another 18 to 24 months before it will

2452
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:22,520
be released on disk so it's a ways off

2453
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:24,850
but you know it'll probably be available

2454
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:27,920
through the Wilhelm Reich infant trusts

2455
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:29,930
or one of the other wilhelm reich

2456
01:45:34,150 --> 01:45:32,690
organizations once it is so that's

2457
01:45:36,459 --> 01:45:34,160
something just keep an eye out for I

2458
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:36,469
just thought I'd get people update yeah

2459
01:45:41,370 --> 01:45:39,530
cool and I'd assume as usual if people

2460
01:45:43,780 --> 01:45:41,380
do have questions maybe you'll try to

2461
01:45:45,490 --> 01:45:43,790
engage in some correspondence on the

2462
01:45:48,130 --> 01:45:45,500
plus sides comment section or in the

2463
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:48,140
forum well I haven't been on there as

2464
01:45:52,780 --> 01:45:50,330
much recently

2465
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,790
like basically since Trump was elected

2466
01:45:57,670 --> 01:45:55,280
yeah this part you know I've had a lot

2467
01:46:00,160 --> 01:45:57,680
of work and I've had some stuff I've

2468
01:46:01,570 --> 01:46:00,170
been doing at home to try and fix some

2469
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:01,580
things that I've had going on my own

2470
01:46:08,740 --> 01:46:05,600
projects and so probably after we do

2471
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:08,750
this fascism podcast I'll be on there a

2472
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:10,250
bit more but leading up to that just

2473
01:46:13,780 --> 01:46:11,930
because there's going to be so much

2474
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:13,790
material for that one as well I'm

2475
01:46:18,010 --> 01:46:15,440
probably not going to be on the boards

2476
01:46:20,650 --> 01:46:18,020
for a while yeah fair enough man

2477
01:46:22,810 --> 01:46:20,660
well very cool once again you killed it

2478
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:22,820
thank you so much take care I guess

2479
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:24,710
we'll be talking in just a couple of

2480
01:46:29,110 --> 01:46:27,110
months if we make it through sounds good

2481
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:29,120
oh wait wait hold on oh one thing yes

2482
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:31,280
since we've had that talk before about

2483
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:34,010
the Eclipse and Trump's job change and

2484
01:46:38,590 --> 01:46:36,800
all that we should just really briefly

2485
01:46:40,970 --> 01:46:38,600
especially since what happened last week

2486
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:40,980
we should talk about all this you

2487
01:46:46,340 --> 01:46:43,920
Nazi stuff that's been going on pretty

2488
01:46:48,440 --> 01:46:46,350
crazy and as for people who just so you

2489
01:46:50,540 --> 01:46:48,450
know we're recording this show the day

2490
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:50,550
before the Eclipse so we could be in for

2491
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:52,650
a whole new world that by the time this

2492
01:46:59,240 --> 01:46:56,400
releases but it's been crazy already and

2493
01:47:01,550 --> 01:46:59,250
you'd hear about people and hysteria and

2494
01:47:02,750 --> 01:47:01,560
lunatics and it's all tied to the full

2495
01:47:06,350 --> 01:47:02,760
moon and there's that whole mythology

2496
01:47:08,150 --> 01:47:06,360
but if you take eclipses and there's

2497
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:08,160
also a similar mythology there leading

2498
01:47:12,350 --> 01:47:10,080
up to this Eclipse people are acting

2499
01:47:15,500 --> 01:47:12,360
crazy oh definitely

2500
01:47:17,660 --> 01:47:15,510
well there is the whole series of

2501
01:47:20,750 --> 01:47:17,670
protests around the robert e lee statue

2502
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:20,760
and then one of the counter protesters

2503
01:47:26,630 --> 01:47:24,810
gets run over and you take so long to

2504
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:26,640
make any sort of statement about it

2505
01:47:31,790 --> 01:47:28,080
minute you know it's a bit ambiguous

2506
01:47:33,710 --> 01:47:31,800
when he does right and then like a day

2507
01:47:36,350 --> 01:47:33,720
or two later he's texting and he

2508
01:47:38,810 --> 01:47:36,360
retweets that he's a fascist and then he

2509
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:38,820
you retweet something where's cnn's

2510
01:47:45,190 --> 01:47:42,330
getting run over by a train he's letting

2511
01:47:49,130 --> 01:47:45,200
go his main strategist and Bannen and

2512
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:49,140
and the whole economic councils and

2513
01:47:54,620 --> 01:47:51,650
stuff way they're all getting disbanded

2514
01:47:56,510 --> 01:47:54,630
the power is leaving the room that's

2515
01:47:58,670 --> 01:47:56,520
basically what i see happening right now

2516
01:48:00,380 --> 01:47:58,680
and that's what the young turks are

2517
01:48:03,620 --> 01:48:00,390
predicting that when the next six to

2518
01:48:05,930 --> 01:48:03,630
eighteen months six being was more

2519
01:48:07,790 --> 01:48:05,940
likely outside but eighteen months being

2520
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:07,800
the far far outside but anywhere between

2521
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:09,690
one in six months they're predicting

2522
01:48:14,270 --> 01:48:12,090
he's going to be out he's going to

2523
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:14,280
resign for one reason or another that he

2524
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:17,280
gives yeah I mean I'm right there ever

2525
01:48:21,470 --> 01:48:19,320
since Austin Copic on the astrology

2526
01:48:23,210 --> 01:48:21,480
episode talked about this eclipse and

2527
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:23,220
what it means with Trump's natal chart

2528
01:48:27,620 --> 01:48:25,710
to suggest a career change for Trump I

2529
01:48:29,570 --> 01:48:27,630
mean ever since then I've been spouting

2530
01:48:31,220 --> 01:48:29,580
off about that telling people hey just

2531
01:48:33,770 --> 01:48:31,230
wait it's gonna happen I've got a buddy

2532
01:48:35,690 --> 01:48:33,780
who every time I get caught up in one of

2533
01:48:38,270 --> 01:48:35,700
these predictions of one of my guests he

2534
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:38,280
writes it down and he makes me sign it

2535
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:39,570
and then when it something doesn't

2536
01:48:43,610 --> 01:48:41,370
happen and the economy doesn't collapse

2537
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:43,620
he calls me out on it and what's

2538
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,810
unfortunate about this is it's not

2539
01:48:51,260 --> 01:48:47,760
something that's pegged to the day you

2540
01:48:54,170 --> 01:48:51,270
know these astrological changes create

2541
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:54,180
windows yeah so it could be six months

2542
01:48:57,020 --> 01:48:54,810
from now

2543
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:57,030
that Trump actually leaves office and

2544
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:58,080
people are gonna say well that had

2545
01:49:01,760 --> 01:48:59,760
nothing to do with the Eclipse and it's

2546
01:49:04,580 --> 01:49:01,770
like well how often does a president

2547
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:04,590
leave office so soon into his first term

2548
01:49:09,890 --> 01:49:07,410
I mean not often and I mean in terms of

2549
01:49:13,850 --> 01:49:09,900
shitstorm controversies this is the

2550
01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:13,860
trump card trump card indeed you want to

2551
01:49:17,390 --> 01:49:15,450
talk about Nazis marching through the

2552
01:49:19,790 --> 01:49:17,400
streets in front of synagogues and

2553
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:19,800
there's the Book of Revelations line

2554
01:49:24,620 --> 01:49:22,290
about the end of the world will be

2555
01:49:34,580 --> 01:49:24,630
ushered in with Trump pets

2556
01:49:37,550 --> 01:49:34,590
oh no trumpets and the way he reacted I

2557
01:49:40,490 --> 01:49:37,560
mean unless you're a really hardcore

2558
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:40,500
support you got to realize the way he

2559
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:44,880
reacted was just so flat you know I mean

2560
01:49:50,570 --> 01:49:47,730
and saying what are we gonna do now pull

2561
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:50,580
down Washington's you know monument it's

2562
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:52,650
just getting to level of ridiculousness

2563
01:49:59,600 --> 01:49:56,010
that is it's cartoonish it's cartoonish

2564
01:50:01,700 --> 01:49:59,610
at this point right well considering how

2565
01:50:04,580 --> 01:50:01,710
much deep state funding talk there was

2566
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:04,590
around the Trump election realizing that

2567
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:07,040
his uncle was very embedded in the MIT

2568
01:50:13,070 --> 01:50:11,520
Nexus and also I looked at some stuff

2569
01:50:16,580 --> 01:50:13,080
from Walter Bosley since you first

2570
01:50:20,300 --> 01:50:16,590
brought the Charles del Chou saga into

2571
01:50:22,430 --> 01:50:20,310
my sphere of influence he actually talks

2572
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:22,440
about that too and what's weird is that

2573
01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:25,920
apparently multiple machines in the

2574
01:50:31,670 --> 01:50:28,860
Charles de la artwork are labeled Trump

2575
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:31,680
and apparently the man who is credited

2576
01:50:39,710 --> 01:50:35,310
with creating those arrows his name was

2577
01:50:42,260 --> 01:50:39,720
Homer Trump so yeah man and another

2578
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:42,270
thing is the ones that say Trump on them

2579
01:50:51,770 --> 01:50:46,290
are numbered in a series 4,500 Donald

2580
01:50:53,630 --> 01:50:51,780
Trump 45th president okay I'm gonna

2581
01:50:55,580 --> 01:50:53,640
bring out my dos job book and look at so

2582
01:50:57,290 --> 01:50:55,590
those paintings yeah you should look at

2583
01:51:00,380 --> 01:50:57,300
that because maybe there's some you know

2584
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:00,390
you have a source because you can always

2585
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:02,850
go back and change things later or make

2586
01:51:07,850 --> 01:51:05,610
one that looks the same but says Trump

2587
01:51:08,660 --> 01:51:07,860
on it and then put it in your blog but

2588
01:51:10,820 --> 01:51:08,670
if you've got a hole

2589
01:51:13,550 --> 01:51:10,830
Coffee definitely take a look at that

2590
01:51:15,740 --> 01:51:13,560
series 4,500 of photos and see if you

2591
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:15,750
see stuff with Trump written on it

2592
01:51:24,260 --> 01:51:18,719
because he might be a liaison to a deep

2593
01:51:27,470 --> 01:51:24,270
deep undercover cult of weird alchemists

2594
01:51:29,930 --> 01:51:27,480
and arrow crafts Flyers that are German

2595
01:51:33,500 --> 01:51:29,940
in nature you know I mean one thing that

2596
01:51:37,010 --> 01:51:33,510
came up briefly during the election that

2597
01:51:39,410 --> 01:51:37,020
a lot of supporters dismissed was the

2598
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:39,420
fact that you know it was stated during

2599
01:51:46,220 --> 01:51:43,890
his divorce proceedings that Ivanka saw

2600
01:51:49,010 --> 01:51:46,230
him go to sleep reading they don't fit

2601
01:51:52,610 --> 01:51:49,020
their speeches damn that's pretty

2602
01:51:53,900 --> 01:51:52,620
damning you know I brought that up to

2603
01:51:55,100 --> 01:51:53,910
people and they said oh well that's a

2604
01:51:56,689 --> 01:51:55,110
divorce for shooting you can't believe

2605
01:51:58,700 --> 01:51:56,699
anything and said man I'm like well

2606
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:58,710
actually that's probably one of the best

2607
01:52:08,060 --> 01:52:01,920
ways to get dirt on just to have their

2608
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:08,070
pissed-off wife spouting off I'll

2609
01:52:12,169 --> 01:52:09,810
definitely check that out because I have

2610
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:12,179
the book with all the I don't know if

2611
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:13,920
it's not all of them but like a lot of

2612
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:16,530
the original prints that were sourced

2613
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:19,650
for the del shout book yes I have that

2614
01:52:23,450 --> 01:52:22,110
book of prints of those so I can look at

2615
01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:23,460
that yeah it would be great to get that

2616
01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:25,800
confirmation and then if I find

2617
01:52:29,689 --> 01:52:27,060
something I'll send you a picture and

2618
01:52:32,090 --> 01:52:29,699
maybe you can post that absolutely and

2619
01:52:33,860 --> 01:52:32,100
there's there's even more to this dude

2620
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:33,870
there's so much this but we're about to

2621
01:52:37,610 --> 01:52:35,730
set a record we proud we actually have

2622
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:37,620
actually that's copyrighted I don't know

2623
01:52:43,490 --> 01:52:41,130
fine we won't post it but let me know so

2624
01:52:46,669 --> 01:52:43,500
I know we can we can source it at least

2625
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:46,679
we'll figure it out it'll happen but man

2626
01:52:51,380 --> 01:52:48,690
we definitely set the record for longest

2627
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:51,390
episode of THC which I just appreciate

2628
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:53,520
but I've got to eat I've got to eat I

2629
01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:54,449
haven't eaten today

2630
01:52:59,810 --> 01:52:57,960
I haven't either all right man

2631
01:53:02,660 --> 01:52:59,820
okay well take it easy I love it

2632
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,670
definitely great time take care okay

2633
01:53:06,590 --> 01:53:04,080
buh-bye

2634
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:06,600
and boom goes the dynamite people Shema

2635
01:53:12,110 --> 01:53:09,810
engineer once again hell of a guy hell

2636
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:12,120
of a show I hope everybody's like in the

2637
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,130
series of secret science shows they are

2638
01:53:18,980 --> 01:53:16,320
a little different because Sherman just

2639
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:18,990
sends me books and presentations and

2640
01:53:23,660 --> 01:53:21,570
lectures that are related to a given

2641
01:53:25,850 --> 01:53:23,670
element and then we talk about them I

2642
01:53:27,950 --> 01:53:25,860
also try to stay conscious of the fact

2643
01:53:29,630 --> 01:53:27,960
that you guys need context it can't come

2644
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:29,640
off like two guys talking about a movie

2645
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,710
you never saw so we always try to lay a

2646
01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:34,080
good base there but we also include

2647
01:53:38,420 --> 01:53:35,880
everything we've talked about in the

2648
01:53:40,850 --> 01:53:38,430
show notes so the links are always there

2649
01:53:43,970 --> 01:53:40,860
but it is more of a synthesis of

2650
01:53:46,430 --> 01:53:43,980
material than most episodes I know we're

2651
01:53:48,380 --> 01:53:46,440
a day late also but everybody gets an

2652
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:48,390
extra hour and I think that's something

2653
01:53:53,060 --> 01:53:50,880
to celebrate at least cuz me and Sherman

2654
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:53,070
Jen it up taking two hours just to get

2655
01:53:57,650 --> 01:53:56,250
through these scientists guys and all

2656
01:53:59,000 --> 01:53:57,660
they're interesting work and the

2657
01:54:02,720 --> 01:53:59,010
experiments that have been done around

2658
01:54:04,970 --> 01:54:02,730
water so if you cut it off there that's

2659
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:04,980
really like a typical higher side plus

2660
01:54:09,410 --> 01:54:07,650
show two hours chalk to the brim of

2661
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:09,420
interesting [\h__\h] and everybody gets that

2662
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:12,330
today and then an hour three we pretty

2663
01:54:15,890 --> 01:54:13,710
much went a completely different

2664
01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:15,900
direction by focusing on this book a tad

2665
01:54:20,900 --> 01:54:18,750
or fuh and a few other pieces of sci-fi

2666
01:54:22,580 --> 01:54:20,910
fantasy stuff that relates to the Inner

2667
01:54:24,230 --> 01:54:22,590
Earth and these properties and

2668
01:54:26,630 --> 01:54:24,240
lesser-known states and structures of

2669
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:26,640
water that actually helped to make the

2670
01:54:32,150 --> 01:54:29,850
case that these stories might be truth

2671
01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:32,160
wrapped in fiction because the idea that

2672
01:54:36,410 --> 01:54:34,110
they guests so write about a few of

2673
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:36,420
these things is fairly unlikely so maybe

2674
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:38,610
we have some real elements at play and

2675
01:54:43,460 --> 01:54:41,490
as me and Sherman jr. do more episodes a

2676
01:54:45,380 --> 01:54:43,470
rhythm does start to emerge after the

2677
01:54:48,020 --> 01:54:45,390
first one we decided how to flush out

2678
01:54:49,700 --> 01:54:48,030
the series and then after the last one

2679
01:54:51,650 --> 01:54:49,710
we figured out how to split the show up

2680
01:54:53,270 --> 01:54:51,660
into the secret science and data up

2681
01:54:55,670 --> 01:54:53,280
front and then that becomes the

2682
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:55,680
structure upon which we build that

2683
01:55:01,220 --> 01:54:58,800
latter speculative portion that becomes

2684
01:55:03,020 --> 01:55:01,230
the Plus show I think that just works

2685
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:03,030
out really well so if you liked the

2686
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:05,370
first two hours consider that any other

2687
01:55:09,050 --> 01:55:07,290
week with THC you'd only be here and

2688
01:55:10,940 --> 01:55:09,060
half of that you're leaving a ton of

2689
01:55:13,340 --> 01:55:10,950
great material on the table for five

2690
01:55:15,590 --> 01:55:13,350
bucks but this week - you also would

2691
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:15,600
have missed the netted Orpha hour so

2692
01:55:17,930 --> 01:55:17,760
consider signing up for plus you know

2693
01:55:23,660 --> 01:55:17,940
the

2694
01:55:25,130 --> 01:55:23,670
but that said guys water when you check

2695
01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:25,140
out the stuff that I did for this show

2696
01:55:29,210 --> 01:55:27,030
or hopefully just listening to it

2697
01:55:32,630 --> 01:55:29,220
explained was helpful but this is very

2698
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:32,640
real and suppressed stuff like there is

2699
01:55:36,650 --> 01:55:34,650
no guessing I saw the charged water

2700
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:36,660
structure form a bridge supported by

2701
01:55:41,660 --> 01:55:39,450
nothing the DNA memory stuff has real

2702
01:55:43,670 --> 01:55:41,670
results so I think this is just a much

2703
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:43,680
cooler and more interesting subject than

2704
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:46,650
I might have even a month ago we all

2705
01:55:50,990 --> 01:55:48,810
know how much of us is made of water we

2706
01:55:52,430 --> 01:55:51,000
don't think about water structure or the

2707
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:52,440
health of the water that we put into our

2708
01:55:57,140 --> 01:55:54,960
bodies very often I think our actions

2709
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:57,150
are probably proof of that right but

2710
01:56:00,320 --> 01:55:58,560
what if you could treat water with all

2711
01:56:02,570 --> 01:56:00,330
these fairly simple methods like

2712
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:02,580
vortexing and have it be like Popeye

2713
01:56:06,890 --> 01:56:04,770
spinach and of course the energy

2714
01:56:08,450 --> 01:56:06,900
applications are pretty great too the

2715
01:56:10,970 --> 01:56:08,460
cavitation material is really

2716
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:10,980
interesting just all-around stuff I

2717
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:13,650
don't hear about very often so big

2718
01:56:17,210 --> 01:56:14,970
thanks to him for bringing it to the

2719
01:56:18,860 --> 01:56:17,220
table takes a lot of work and time to

2720
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:18,870
gather this material and your thoughts

2721
01:56:23,980 --> 01:56:20,880
about it and then to sit here with me

2722
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:23,990
for three hours who wants to do that I

2723
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:26,490
also saw an interesting headline on

2724
01:56:30,020 --> 01:56:27,690
reddit today a little bit of a

2725
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:30,030
synchronicity but it sort of ties in it

2726
01:56:34,430 --> 01:56:32,490
was on the futurology sub which is one

2727
01:56:36,740 --> 01:56:34,440
of my favorites and it said that

2728
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:36,750
scientists have succeeded in combining

2729
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:39,450
spider silk with graphene and carbon

2730
01:56:44,780 --> 01:56:42,450
nanotubes a composite material five

2731
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,790
times strong enough to hold a human

2732
01:56:48,980 --> 01:56:46,560
which is produced by the spider itself

2733
01:56:51,710 --> 01:56:48,990
after it drinks water containing the

2734
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:51,720
nanotubes so there you go just by

2735
01:56:57,230 --> 01:56:54,450
drinking treated water the spider can do

2736
01:56:59,660 --> 01:56:57,240
this I mean what could we do with it is

2737
01:57:02,420 --> 01:56:59,670
it maybe a less invasive and natural way

2738
01:57:04,700 --> 01:57:02,430
to geo engineer or even bio engineer our

2739
01:57:07,190 --> 01:57:04,710
bodies because it sounds like it could

2740
01:57:09,290 --> 01:57:07,200
be and what this whole episode got me

2741
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:09,300
thinking about was legends of fountains

2742
01:57:13,490 --> 01:57:11,730
of youth and magical Springs and how

2743
01:57:16,010 --> 01:57:13,500
this could all relate to perfect

2744
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:16,020
conditions in the environment maybe the

2745
01:57:20,060 --> 01:57:17,760
light hits it just right and the water

2746
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:20,070
flows in the optimum spiral and the

2747
01:57:25,190 --> 01:57:22,080
charge builds up you know what I mean I

2748
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:25,200
think it's possible and not only was

2749
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:27,210
this episode long but you basically got

2750
01:57:31,649 --> 01:57:29,280
a crash course and all the material that

2751
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:31,659
I had for the time traveling Trump's

2752
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:33,610
in the Inner Earth episode that I guess

2753
01:57:37,830 --> 01:57:35,770
isn't gonna happen I do think it's

2754
01:57:39,629 --> 01:57:37,840
pretty crazy that nobody I saw during

2755
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:39,639
the election was talking about Trump's

2756
01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:41,530
uncle literally being the guy to assess

2757
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:44,080
Tesla's papers and if that wasn't enough

2758
01:57:48,270 --> 01:57:46,480
I mentioned Walter Bosley had added that

2759
01:57:50,610 --> 01:57:48,280
Trump is actually on some of the del

2760
01:57:52,890 --> 01:57:50,620
Chou drawings of the Sonora Aero Club

2761
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:52,900
while Sherman confirmed that because he

2762
01:57:58,169 --> 01:57:54,850
has a hard copy of the book of artwork

2763
01:57:59,879 --> 01:57:58,179
and sure enough it's there maybe there's

2764
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,889
no way to link the family trees together

2765
01:58:04,649 --> 01:58:01,840
but Trump is not a common name and

2766
01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:04,659
especially not in the small pool of

2767
01:58:09,629 --> 01:58:07,780
people working in science at that level

2768
01:58:12,479 --> 01:58:09,639
that are German immigrants at the time

2769
01:58:14,939 --> 01:58:12,489
right I don't know some people even say

2770
01:58:16,890 --> 01:58:14,949
that the name Trump is made-up so who's

2771
01:58:18,899 --> 01:58:16,900
to say but there is a ton of speculation

2772
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:18,909
there built on a pretty interesting set

2773
01:58:23,550 --> 01:58:21,130
of real facts from the Baron Trump books

2774
01:58:26,459 --> 01:58:23,560
and the arrow club artwork to his uncle

2775
01:58:28,919 --> 01:58:26,469
Tesla and back to the future either way

2776
01:58:30,780 --> 01:58:28,929
maybe we will get Walter back on it

2777
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:30,790
really is his material it's his blog

2778
01:58:34,919 --> 01:58:32,650
that I learned about the del Chou Trump

2779
01:58:37,169 --> 01:58:34,929
connection and I think a lot of people

2780
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:37,179
enjoyed the last one we did so maybe we

2781
01:58:40,950 --> 01:58:38,800
should do that I think that'd be fair I

2782
01:58:42,450 --> 01:58:40,960
also have to thank everybody out there

2783
01:58:45,810 --> 01:58:42,460
who answered my call about web hosting

2784
01:58:48,090 --> 01:58:45,820
and needing a new server I got a lot of

2785
01:58:49,979 --> 01:58:48,100
great responses and I have multiple

2786
01:58:52,260 --> 01:58:49,989
generous people helping with the backend

2787
01:58:53,570 --> 01:58:52,270
and technical aspects of this business

2788
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:53,580
because it is a business and

2789
01:58:57,300 --> 01:58:55,210
traditionally I like to keep everything

2790
01:58:59,879 --> 01:58:57,310
in-house but that's risky when something

2791
01:59:02,729 --> 01:58:59,889
happens it's over my head so I asked for

2792
01:59:04,830 --> 01:59:02,739
a little help and man I got it I will

2793
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:04,840
say I was really shocked by the career

2794
01:59:09,540 --> 01:59:06,610
positions of some higher side schatz

2795
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:09,550
listeners out there Jesus Christ some of

2796
01:59:14,399 --> 01:59:11,679
the resumes I got our listeners who work

2797
01:59:16,770 --> 01:59:14,409
in IT or data analytics at some huge

2798
01:59:19,379 --> 01:59:16,780
companies some who are lead engineers

2799
01:59:21,330 --> 01:59:19,389
and major web hosting companies too so I

2800
01:59:23,850 --> 01:59:21,340
was like really humbled to get such

2801
01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:23,860
high-quality responses I ended up going

2802
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:25,270
with a guy who was a little more

2803
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:27,190
independent but also has an impressive

2804
01:59:30,930 --> 01:59:28,810
resume and he's gonna be making some

2805
01:59:33,390 --> 01:59:30,940
moves and optimizing the THC

2806
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:33,400
infrastructure and so far he's been

2807
01:59:37,410 --> 01:59:34,810
really great and I think we have almost

2808
01:59:39,899 --> 01:59:37,420
all the little issues worked out also

2809
01:59:41,850 --> 01:59:39,909
big thanks to other podcasters who

2810
01:59:43,290 --> 01:59:41,860
helped me out and gave me some contacts

2811
01:59:45,570 --> 01:59:43,300
or just felt my pain

2812
01:59:47,190 --> 01:59:45,580
apparently our good friend Jenn briny of

2813
01:59:49,430 --> 01:59:47,200
Congressional dish she was with Bluehost

2814
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:49,440
too and finally ended that nightmare and

2815
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:51,970
Gordon from those conspiracy guys he got

2816
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:53,770
in there and tried to work out some

2817
01:59:57,870 --> 01:59:55,930
redirects for me and helped out a lot

2818
01:59:59,160 --> 01:59:57,880
offered a lot of great support to me in

2819
02:00:01,920 --> 01:59:59,170
my time of crisis

2820
02:00:04,460 --> 02:00:01,930
so I do appreciate the Solidarity guys

2821
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:04,470
you both put on really excellent shows

2822
02:00:08,190 --> 02:00:06,850
but that pretty much does it for me I

2823
02:00:09,900 --> 02:00:08,200
think you guys are gonna love what we

2824
02:00:13,020 --> 02:00:09,910
got coming out on the roster for

2825
02:00:15,330 --> 02:00:13,030
September we're getting into a recent

2826
02:00:17,340 --> 02:00:15,340
surge in Chicago cryptid sightings we're

2827
02:00:19,710 --> 02:00:17,350
getting into predictive magic and we're

2828
02:00:23,700 --> 02:00:19,720
getting into the 5g attack on everything

2829
02:00:26,130 --> 02:00:23,710
it's gonna be a wild ride I'm also gonna

2830
02:00:28,050 --> 02:00:26,140
have chapter 2 of the Armenia adventure

2831
02:00:31,140 --> 02:00:28,060
on your desk by the end of the month and

2832
02:00:33,030 --> 02:00:31,150
that is a Carl would promise so thanks

2833
02:00:35,460 --> 02:00:33,040
everybody for listening thanks to my man

2834
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:35,470
Shama engineer for sharing such unique

2835
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:37,690
stuff and I'll see you next time

2836
02:00:41,610 --> 02:00:39,730
your move water Wizards science

2837
02:00:48,500 --> 02:00:41,620
suppressors and agents of the alchemy

2838
02:00:54,540 --> 02:00:51,930
lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to

2839
02:00:57,270 --> 02:00:54,550
bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive

2840
02:01:00,000 --> 02:00:57,280
cuz you hate and nine-to-five you wake

2841
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:00,010
up with a dread and make sure your cats

2842
02:01:04,980 --> 02:01:02,290
are fed did your brain talk to a ghost

2843
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:04,990
who moved your coffee and toast as you

2844
02:01:11,670 --> 02:01:09,070
listen to the higher side chats you get

2845
02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:11,680
to your desk and your boss says it's a

2846
02:01:16,770 --> 02:01:14,350
mess and your soul slowly goes to a

2847
02:01:19,140 --> 02:01:16,780
place where nothing grows when you think

2848
02:01:24,330 --> 02:01:19,150
he's not around you insert a steady

2849
02:01:28,890 --> 02:01:24,340
sound vom says turn it down and you say

2850
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:28,900
it's just the higher side chats do you

2851
02:01:36,930 --> 02:01:32,250
think you'd be invited to Bohemian Grove

2852
02:01:41,250 --> 02:01:36,940
to a Bilderberg Club oh do you think

2853
02:01:44,130 --> 02:01:41,260
could be invited by Rasta to a party on

2854
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:44,140
a submarine

2855
02:01:48,459 --> 02:01:46,070
[Music]

2856
02:01:51,609 --> 02:01:48,469
to the center of the

2857
02:01:55,810 --> 02:01:51,619
to the Marianas Trench your teeth begin

2858
02:01:59,649 --> 02:01:55,820
to clench from the sulphureus stench the

2859
02:02:04,130 --> 02:01:59,659
mask you give in doesn't fit because

2860
02:02:09,660 --> 02:02:07,020
starting today you'll make plans to get

2861
02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:09,670
away there's no one to hold you down and

2862
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:12,400
the what if start to drown then you wake

2863
02:02:18,090 --> 02:02:15,250
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

2864
02:02:20,460 --> 02:02:18,100
and the light winks at you cuz its life

2865
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:20,470
is almost through but it's holding gone